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Lakota Indians Withdraw Treaties Signed With U.S.

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posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 07:41 PM
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Well we can only hope the US military will put an end to this uprising and claim yet another piece of territory that the indians cannot defend. Horse back and arrow will not save you this time. Nor the odd casino or two. If you think what we do to terrorists is bad, wait till you see what we do in our own backyard.......and that is exactly what it is......OUR OWN backyard.




posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
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Like it or not, theyare the original owners and they still live there. If your interpretation of ownership ends with the death of the founders, this country died with the Pilgrims.



Look at all the non americans getting all excited... this wont happen, it just happens to be about 150 years to late.

Everything in todays world is tied to the US economy. what would be the indians currency? Deer and beevers? LMAO!

No way this happens..



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 07:47 PM
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posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 07:49 PM
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I'm afraid that you are probably right. But I am still insupport of their success. This brings to mind a story that I heard from a full-blood Apache girl. I do not have a link to support her story, and only have her word as to the truth of it. So if anyone can shed some light as to the truth of it, I would greatly appreciate it.
Her claim is that she was adopted and raised by a white family by force of the U.S. gov. She says that there was an attempt by our gov about 30-40 yrs ago to seperate all children born to NA families, in order to force extinction of the NA's in this country. Any one know anything about this?



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by sizzle

Her claim is that she was adopted and raised by a white family by force of the U.S. gov. She says that there was an attempt by our gov about 30-40 yrs ago to seperate all children born to NA families, in order to force extinction of the NA's in this country. Any one know anything about this?


The last time the federal government did anything like this was longer ago than 40 years, more like before the world wars.

It did happen, though. Usually it was more like sending the children to special schools where their hair was cut short and they were beaten if caught speaking native tongues.. [sarcasm]What self respecting white man would want to adopt a savage, after all[/sarcasm]



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by semperfoo2.0
dont get so worked up over this. its nothing. These indians are pissed that life around them is better...they really need to grow up though. if they really want success, they can have it. being a nation of their own will not happen.

C130 gunships and apache (what a slap in the face) long bows assure that.


Wow. You people are pathetic. Neocon supporting wannabe militants : talk tough all you like, C130 gunships aren't going to be anywhere near Lakota reservations because of this
That's just your ignorant, television fed, pro-murder mentality showing itself.

'they really need to grow up though'

How about they grow up enough to take care of their own land and policies? Maybe that has something to do with ending treaties which have been used to ROB them of their land and MANIPULATE their policies.

You don't understand any of this because you're an ignorant racist... you among others that have spouted your pro-nazi bull in this thread. Be gone.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by semperfoo2.0
apache (what a slap in the face) long bows assure that.


You are sick.

Can someone please give a post ban to this troll before I get one for telling him what I really think?



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:04 PM
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posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by cavscout

Originally posted by semperfoo2.0
apache (what a slap in the face) long bows assure that.


You are sick.

Can someone please give a post ban to this troll before I get one for telling him what I really think?


oh shut up...


I was saying if worse came to worse, and these indians started their own militant attacks on US citizens, or supported terrorists groups outside the US, by either housing them or funding them, they would need to be stopped. home grown terrorism is my biggest fear if the natives dont get their way.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:08 PM
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Thank you for your input.
I just wanted to add that IMO some of the remarks here are very cruel to the race of the red man.
How could anyone with any kind of sensitivity to their fellow man, have such a hard-nosed attitude towards the welfare of the NA's?
One only has to read history or even the book, "Trail of Tears," to see that there was a grave injustice done on their behalf.
How much are they expected to take before they rebel?



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:09 PM
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I actually was going to argue with you and tear you “logic” into little, tiny pieces, but I think you may be beyond educating.

Please, go away.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by semperfoo2.0
heres what I think. I think the US gov and the lokota tribe, along with many other indian tribes, need to have a "come to jesus talk". Both sides need to make their needs known. Lets face it, these indians will not have a nation of their own within the US. I havea hard time defending the indians because they really dont want to function in modern society. So they leach off the US gov. If they really wanted success, they would move out of their own reservations and try to blend in with american society. If this indian nation state came to pass, i have no doubt that the ppl who inhabit that land will become just like the indians on their reservation lands, poor and unproductive members in todays society.


The LAKOTA... spell it right.

'these indians' - referring to them like you do makes it perfectly clear that you're a racist and consider all native americans to be the same.

'if they really wanted success' - what a joke. you think they should abandon their land and their families to blend in and lose their cultural heritage. do you know what that is? it's called prejudice. it's called xenophobia. your rife with it.

watch your mouth, you just registered today to spout this racist bs and we're going to make sure your banned for it should you say ONE more prejudice comment on our watch.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:13 PM
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with savages like that
no wounder they want to split from the states

seriously what self respecting person would call for death to people
that dont share their views

one time i would like to see this ugly face used






[edit on 20-12-2007 by bodrul]



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by sizzle
very cruel to the race of the red man.


Me thank you plenty for help, but me not red, me tan.


Seriously, can people be any more condescending?



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:15 PM
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You know, I really don't care if you think my remarks are crude. IF for one minute anyone thinks the indians are going to be granted a nation inside the borders of the United States.....you have a rude awaking coming. The reality of it is what people really hate to hear.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by NewWorldOver

Originally posted by semperfoo2.0
dont get so worked up over this. its nothing. These indians are pissed that life around them is better...they really need to grow up though. if they really want success, they can have it. being a nation of their own will not happen.

C130 gunships and apache (what a slap in the face) long bows assure that.


Wow. You people are pathetic. Neocon supporting wannabe militants : talk tough all you like, C130 gunships aren't going to be anywhere near Lakota reservations because of this
That's just your ignorant, television fed, pro-murder mentality showing itself.

'they really need to grow up though'

How about they grow up enough to take care of their own land and policies? Maybe that has something to do with ending treaties which have been used to ROB them of their land and MANIPULATE their policies.

You don't understand any of this because you're an ignorant racist... you among others that have spouted your pro-nazi bull in this thread. Be gone.


Ad hominem name-calling, eh? real mature. Im sure you would love nothing more than to see the US collapse. Your type are the true biggots.

The natives are living on planet earth, just as any other person. It doesnt matter where, we are all from the same seed...They are a minority dominated by the majority. Which explains the policy manipulations. The US didnt invent it.(Duh)

Its been going on long before the US became a nation and will continue to go on for the rest of time. The dominate force, has the biggest impact on all the little nobodys..(for lack of better word)



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:16 PM
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Why would the NA's want to leave their sovereign land and blend with the rest of society? I suppose by society, you mean be more white.
At least on their appointed land, they can form their own governments and continue the traditions of their beliefs. Many of them are far less concerned with material gain than they are with moral principles. They are taking steps to become more educated.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:18 PM
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Sizle, I regretted what I said above as soon as I posted it. Sorry. I am not going to edit it because I don’t hide from my mistakes.

You have to understand that half of the support AIM gets is from indians who are tired white do-gooders treating them like children or a stereotype from a John Wayne movie.

Anyways, I am sorry.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by wdkirk
You know, I really don't care if you think my remarks are crude. IF for one minute anyone thinks the indians are going to be granted a nation inside the borders of the United States.....you have a rude awaking coming. The reality of it is what people really hate to hear.


Thats pretty much how it is..

And I call them indians, not out of disprespect. but because that is what theyre generally known as being
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Im also typing on a crappy laptop that has small keys. so instead of getting into great depth about a discussion i dont really care for, i use short cuts.. deal with it.

[edit on 20-12-2007 by semperfoo2.0]



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:24 PM
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Thank you for your apology. I do have to say that your response to me was confusing. Because I wasn't referring to you in MY statement. I totally understood your remarks. Thanks again.



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