Originally posted by Extralien
reply to post by geocom
Money only has a value if you believe it does. And considering the total worlds currency is no longer backed by any gold (since about 1970) then all
of it is worthless right now.
If money is worthless what are you using to buy food and fuel or do you live in a place that people just barter...
Money is currently based on two consenting adults agreeing on the value stated on the money itself. So that fixes that problem.
agreed the current system is called Fiat Money and was put in place in 1971 I must have just not been not thinking when I wrote that..
The war of independence (revolutionary war as you call it) was not a fight for the land. It was a war to overthrow British rule.
and would British rule not include custodianship of the land additionally if you search the internet under "war of independence" the first result is
the Revolutionary war, that is how it was taught to me throughout my education..
Don't forget that most colonials were actually integrating with the native people whose sole purpose was to lead a peaceful life.
While there were many successfully integrated communities there were as many massacre's attributable to both parties not just the United States..
It was because of the British and then the new American citizens, that created the cities and mass sprawl you are accustomed to today.
agreed I can't stand the sprawl myself not one bit. but I don't the we can just blame the British and the United states for this it has after all
happened all around the world...
In all practical terms, land cannot be owned. If you could own land then how far down into the ground have you purchased? You might have 5 miles
squared of land, but what about above and below. Do you also own the air space?
semantics
Can you as a freehold land owner of just an acre ban all aircraft from flying over? can you ban all traffic and people?
again Semantics I actually enjoy the aircraft..
By rights, you should be able to. But you can't own air and so it should be the same for land. As much as air moves and mixes, so does land.
This is where controlled airspace comes into effect. The only thing stopping me from flying through it is some high powered, fully armed military jet
and the puppet masters controlling it.
IMO, the whole idea of land ownership is completely wrong. As you have correctly stated that most tribes believe that land is only borrowed, then so
it should stand that way. Therefore, nobody can own it. You can't move it, you can't take it on holiday. you can only build or grow food on it. So
this still leaves the issue that the USA cannot and does not own the land. It is only stated as so due to the idea being popularly believed by those
who wish it to be so. The exact same thought process behind the value of money.
Okay so even giving into your obsession with people not being able to own the land the United States is the Custodian of the Land and as such they are
just borrowing the land from it's primary custodian the United states..
That said if you don't want to abide by the rules set forth by the custodian then leave the land and find another custodian..
[edit on 12/20/2007 by geocom]