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Blue skinned man in the news...

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posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 12:40 AM
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I don't know that silver allways has this effect on everybody. I think I saw someone who had turned silver in color before.

But, I'm not so sure the condition is dangerous. Perhaps he is just blue because of the silver.

Nothing wrong with "alternative" medicine, as it was termed. You just have to be prepared and do your research before you try something.

As a side note, I can't say that I would call some of the sewage that the drug companies pump out to the masses as "medicine."

Troy




posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 12:42 AM
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What's with that Kentucky Bluegrass?


Story here

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posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 01:13 AM
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Nice video. lol . I loved that song!!!



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 01:16 AM
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I saw those pictures too!! I don't get it? The Kentucky fugates have a medical condition, correct? I wonder why the blue man on the news has skin the exact same shade as these people. Where the kentucky blue people born that way? or was it a gradual change? If it was gradual, I would be more likely to believe that the man on the news is just another blue fugate person from Kentucky. But if that were the case, why would they lie about it on the news?



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by leira7
reply to post by Alxandro
 


I saw those pictures too!! I don't get it? The Kentucky fugates have a medical condition, correct? I wonder why the blue man on the news has skin the exact same shade as these people. Where the kentucky blue people born that way? or was it a gradual change? If it was gradual, I would be more likely to believe that the man on the news is just another blue fugate person from Kentucky. But if that were the case, why would they lie about it on the news?

The Kentucky Fugates have a condition where a lot of their “red” blood cells can’t carry oxygen, so they’re always blue. As far as I know, they’re born that way.

They’re not lying about “the guy on the news.” He himself says he has been drinking colloidal silver for years, and this is well known to cause a condition called argyria. A couple of years ago a U.S. senator was in the news for having it.



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 07:50 AM
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wow! That is the first time I ever heard of any health condition that turns your skin blue. hmmm... I wonder what will make the skin green?



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by zaraza777
I wonder what will make the skin green?


Multiple organ failure:
Green skin discoloration associated with multiple organ failure



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by MurderSmurf
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The Kentucky Fugates have a condition where a lot of their “red” blood cells can’t carry oxygen, so they’re always blue. As far as I know, they’re born that way.
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Oh crap, here it comes, sorry folks but I have to ask.
Refresh my memory but doesn't lizard blood turn blue when it comes in contact with oxygen?


I don't know about you but I'm Dreaming of a Blue [Reptilian] Christmas

Apparently this condition affects animals too.



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 10:19 AM
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You're basically making two assumptions based on a news article:

1) That he took this stuff knowing, in the very beginning, that it would turn him blue

2) That he's being sensitive about what happened to him in his old town because of self esteem issues and is over-exaggerating his non-acceptance by the public

To address the first point, you truly believe he would take it knowing it would turn him blue? Forget what he said about him continuing to drink the stuff. Do you honestly think he would have drank it had he known in the very beginning that it would turn him blue?

The logical answer is no he wouldn't still drink it knowing that. But the safe don't-know-all-the-facts answer is we don't know what decision he would have made because we know nothing about him.

Which leads in to my next point: We don't know anything about him. That means none of us know anything about his self esteem, which means it makes no sense for you to make assumptions about him.

Are you saying he shouldn't be accepted in public? Because of a stupid decision, he shouldn't be allowed to go out without being made fun of?

A person that loses their arms and legs because of a poor decision, should they be prohibited by society from going out in public and living a normal life?

The sane answer would be no. So why shouldn't he be allowed to live a normal life?

Based on what you're saying, it seems as if you're saying he has no right to complain about his non-acceptance. That's pretty wrong.



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
To address the first point, you truly believe he would take it knowing it would turn him blue? Forget what he said about him continuing to drink the stuff. Do you honestly think he would have drank it had he known in the very beginning that it would turn him blue?


That is irrelevant. The point is now he knows now, yet he persists in taking it. What does that tell you about his character?


Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
Are you saying he shouldn't be accepted in public? Because of a stupid decision, he shouldn't be allowed to go out without being made fun of?


Not what I said at all. What I meant is that he should square with the fact that people are going to stare at him. If people can gawk at an albino person, what makes you think people won't be looking at him? People are like that. The sooner one realises this the better. He has got to accept that and he has got to accept that his skin is blue now.

This is the reality of the situation.


Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
Based on what you're saying, it seems as if you're saying he has no right to complain about his non-acceptance. That's pretty wrong.


Again, not what I said. He can complain all he wants. All I'm saying is the process will repeat itself in his new town, since people are generally predictable. So how does complaining help his situation?

Edit to add: perhaps the only positive thing to come from his complains is that now people in the area are aware of the medical condition argyria which turns people blue because of an overdose of silver.

Another clue into this person's psyche?

[edit on 21-12-2007 by Beachcoma]



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Beachcoma
That is irrelevant.


No it's not. As long as we're discussing something he has no control over, then the question has to be asked: did he know in the beginning that it would turn him blue?

Does stopping drinking this stuff guarantee a return of normal skin color?


Originally posted by Beachcoma
If people can gawk at an albino person, what makes you think people won't be looking at him?


I clarified what I said in the beginning. People will stare - yes. But I went on to add why is it fair for people to make fun of him?

Do you think people make fun of him?

If so, do you think that's right simply because "people are like that"?


Originally posted by Beachcoma
He has got to accept that and he has got to accept that his skin is blue now.


Wouldn't stopping this "treatment" mean he hasn't accepted it? If you're trying to change the fact that your skin is blue, then you haven't accepted that it is blue. If you're not doing anything about it, then you've accepted it as a permanent thing.

So which do you want him to do? Stop drinking it or accept that he's blue?


Originally posted by Beachcoma
So how does complaining help his situation?


Bottom line: Do you think it's wrong for people to not accept him because he's blue?

[edit on 12/21/07 by NovusOrdoMundi]



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 10:51 AM
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I agree with you, people will stare no matter what not out of rudeness but more because this is a "deer in the headlight" type scenario. It's not everyday you get to see a blue person so public awareness of his situation is the first step to getting folks accustomed to blue people.
He should welcome all the media attention he gets.

Speaking of the LimeLight, maybe Jesse Jackson could help too by recruiting him for the Rainbow Coalition.

My biggest wonder is if he isn't just a BIG die hard Dallas Cowboy's fan taking it to extremes.



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by Alxandro
My biggest wonder is if he isn't just a BIG die hard Dallas Cowboy's fan taking it to extremes.


If that's the case then I would no longer defend him. Not because he didn't have the condition, but because he's a Cowboys fan.



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 11:02 AM
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Again, you seem to miss my point. All I'm saying is that the fact that he persists in taking the stuff means he has self-control issues. This is further supported by the fact that the stuff he takes would only make a person blue if he does it excessively.

From what I can tell stopping it would not change him back to a normal colour, but it would show that he is beginning to practice self-control. Essentially it doesn't matter that his skin is blue, the deeper problem here is something psychological that he needs to address. Something within.

Does an albino person go around complaining that people are gawking at them? Usually no. They have squared with the fact and just go about their lives. Screw the other people who make a fuss about it and stare. People will be like that. It's natural. Only in an ideal world will people not see the difference in appearance.

Food for thought:
Shoppers more likely to buy from attractive salespeople

That's how it is in the real world.


Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
Do you think people make fun of him?

[...]

Do you think it's wrong for people to not accept him because he's blue?


For the first question: I don't know. Was it stated in the news release? All I got was people stared at him. No surprise there.


For the second question: yes, of course I think it's wrong. But what I think about that or what you think for that matter is irrelevant. What matters is how he thinks. And by the looks of it, he seems to think that moving to a new town (a.k.a running away) will solve all his woes.

That is what I'm trying to show here.



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 11:12 AM
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Ok so you said that stopping the treatment wouldn't turn him back to his original skin color. So given that, how does he have control over what has happened to him?

Yeah, perhaps he should see a doctor or talk to someone about the self control problems. I agree.

But none of that really changes him back to normal, does it? Seeing a doctor about that won't stop people from making fun of his blue skin, will it?

I don't want to make this in to a longer drawn out debate than it has turned in to. All I'm saying is despite his problems, people shouldn't make fun of him for this condition. Blue skin color doesn't change nor reflect who you are as a person, so people shouldn't judge as such.

This is no different than racists making generalizations and assumptions about black people or hispanic people.



[edit on 12/21/07 by NovusOrdoMundi]



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 11:17 AM
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Is anyone making fun of him in the first place? I can't seem to find that reference anywhere.

And are you calling me racist?



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Beachcoma
Is anyone making fun of him in the first place?


We can assume people stare. Why can't we assume at least one person has made fun of him?


Originally posted by Beachcoma
And are you calling me racist?


Is blue skin a race?

Even if it was, why would I be calling you a racist? I'm very clearly referring to people making fun of him. If you're not making fun of him, then I'm not talking about you.

[edit on 12/21/07 by NovusOrdoMundi]



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 11:52 AM
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I didn't assume people stared. His girlfriend/partner said people stared in the news video.

You did assume people made fun of him, though. While that might be true, I doubt it was directly to him. The guy is 57 years old now. You've got to remember the change happened gradually over 14 years he has been drinking that stuff (which by the way he doesn't believe is the cause his skin turned blue... he figured it happen because he rubbed it on his face... another clue to how his character is?). People might have talked behind his back, but that is a reality of life as well. Shouldn't be a reason for someone to get uppity.

[edit on 21-12-2007 by Beachcoma]



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Beachcoma
People might have talked behind his back, but that is a reality of life as well.


I know it is which is the reason for my first post in this thread that you responded to. I know it's a reality of life and society and that's what I have a problem with.

We've basically come full circle to end up basically saying the same thing.



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 01:24 PM
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To my knowledge, there is no steadfast treatment that reverses argyria. This means that simply ceasing to take the colloidal silver will not reverse the process. I did a little research and most of the things I read about reversing argyria involve taking some other combination of vitamins and minerals. I believe that actually makes your point about his continued consumption irrelevant.

/tn.



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