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# NWO is responsible for concert pitch A-440hz

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posted on Aug, 6 2008 @ 10:09 PM
What's wrong with 540 and 810?

540 is a C#, 512 is a C.

810 is a G#, 768 is a G.

[edit on 6-8-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 02:17 PM

Originally posted by nscopheacriaaclters
What's wrong with 540 and 810?

540 is a C#, 512 is a C.

810 is a G#, 768 is a G.

[edit on 6-8-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

C# = 540
F# = 740
G# = 810

The # numbers are not harmonic frequencies.
See Berkeley table as posted by Maya432 on page 38 of this thread.

The # numbers are introduced in the Egypt pyramid (440 and 740)
www.geocities.com...
and in Hinduism
www.hinduism.co.za...

[edit on 8-8-2008 by hawk123]

posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 05:43 PM

Originally posted by hawk123

Originally posted by nscopheacriaaclters
What's wrong with 540 and 810?

540 is a C#, 512 is a C.

810 is a G#, 768 is a G.

[edit on 6-8-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

C# = 540
F# = 740
G# = 810

The # numbers are not harmonic frequencies.
See Berkeley table as posted by Maya432 on page 38 of this thread.

The # numbers are introduced in the Egypt pyramid (440 and 740)
www.geocities.com...
and in Hinduism
www.hinduism.co.za...

[edit on 8-8-2008 by hawk123]

Not harmonic frequencies?!

540 Hz is 2 octaves below the 5th harmonic of 432! It's a basic 5:4 Just ratio for a major third.

A Just major sixth above A 432 (F#) would be 720 Hz (5:3).

A Just major seventh above A 432 (G#) is 810 Hz (15:8).

These are only simple 5-limit intervals. Should we just never play in the key of A major?

[edit on 8-8-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 06:09 AM
W
W, disregard that laughing smiley in my previous post. I don't wanna be an azzle here.

posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 06:50 AM

Please study the Berkeley document on Harmonics, which starts on page:
www.msri.org...

The Harmonic numbers are:
www.msri.org...
www.msri.org...

The 5 related numers are related to Penta-(gon)
And 15 = 3 x 5 = 555 (What happend 555 days after 9/11 ?)
1 May (month 5), 1776 is the Foundation of the Bavarian Illuminati.

432 / 4 = 108 (harmonic) * 5 = 540 (dis-harmonic)
432 / 3 = 144 (harmonic) * 5 = 720 (dis-harmonic)
432 / 8 = 54 (harmonic) * 15 = 810 (dis-harmonic)
It is clear that the number 5 is related to disharmony.
Just study the Triple Tau

Playing of the # (Sharp) frequencies should be stopped.

[edit on 9-8-2008 by hawk123]

posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 04:25 PM
5th harmonic is pretty fundamental, though. Without it, you're stuck with Pythagorean tuning and lousy thirds (the only musical thing that document you brought up can describe is Pythagorean harmony).

Have you ever listened to and compared a 81:64 Pythagorean major third [or a 7.8-cent flatter 2^(1/3) 12-TET major third] to a Just 5:4 major third?

The 81:64 and 2^(1/3):1 major thirds sound like crap. The 5:4 sound much more pleasing.

If you have a stringed instrument, you can easily sound a fifth harmonic (two octaves plus a Just major third) above another pitch. Try sounding a Pythagorean third that way.

I can't imagine wanting to cut myself off from anything below and including 7-limit harmony (those subminor thirds are very beautiful), let alone 5-limit.

[edit on 9-8-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

posted on Aug, 9 2008 @ 04:46 PM

Originally posted by hawk123
Playing of the # (Sharp) frequencies should be stopped.

Do you mean no sharp keys or sharp accidentals ever? How about flat keys and accidentals?

On a side note, we can easily forget about accidentals without limiting ourselves harmonically by notating according to pitch rather than notes, which is something I've been working to do.

posted on Aug, 11 2008 @ 03:11 PM

Originally posted by nscopheacriaaclters

Originally posted by hawk123
Playing of the # (Sharp) frequencies should be stopped.

Do you mean no sharp keys or sharp accidentals ever? How about flat keys and accidentals?

On a side note, we can easily forget about accidentals without limiting ourselves harmonically by notating according to pitch rather than notes, which is something I've been working to do.

At least we should avoid the following SHARP frequencies:
740 Hertz within GIZA pyramid (like 440 hertz)
www.geocities.com...
F # being 740 hertz if A is tuned at 440 hertz.
This meaning 74 is harmonic to 44, 37 to 22, and 11, as well as Absolute 33 hertz

And 540 and 810 Hertz.
These numbers are divisible by its mirror numbers.
540 / 45 = 12 (540 = CIA or OTO code)
810 / 18 = 45 (810 = RA Hoor Khut)

[edit on 11-8-2008 by hawk123]

posted on Aug, 11 2008 @ 11:15 PM

Originally posted by hawk123
At least we should avoid the following SHARP frequencies:
740 Hertz within GIZA pyramid (like 440 hertz)
www.geocities.com...
F # being 740 hertz if A is tuned at 440 hertz.
This meaning 74 is harmonic to 44, 37 to 22, and 11, as well as Absolute 33 hertz

And 540 and 810 Hertz.
These numbers are divisible by its mirror numbers.
540 / 45 = 12 (540 = CIA or OTO code)
810 / 18 = 45 (810 = RA Hoor Khut)

Am I allowed to use pitches from equally-tempered scales that aren't 540, 810, but close to them? Like, say, 544.28 Hz (12-TET) or 539.07 Hz (72-TET)?

[edit on 11-8-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 12:35 PM

TET-12: See for the history:
en.wikipedia.org...

On link below the TET-12 frequencies are shown for 440 Hertz.
www.music.sc.edu...
Now enter 432 Hertz and do the calculation again.
Then C# shows 544.29 Hertz instead of 544,28 Hertz
544,29 Hertz can also be found on links below.
www.hinduism.co.za...
www.goto2012.nl...

Now C# i= 432 x 2^4/12 = 544.29 Hertz
This is not an harmonic frequency.

TET-12 is a subset of TET-72
en.wikipedia.org...

TET-72 (539.07) is also not an harmonic frequency.

You are allowed to use every dis-harmonic frequency, but I listen only to Harmonic frequencies as defined by Berkeley.

[edit on 12-8-2008 by hawk123]

posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 04:17 PM
Okay, I truncated instead of rounded.

Rounded: 544.285 894 Hz

You have to admit; 72-TET offers extremely good approximations of the harmonic series down past 7-limit (539.07 Hz C# from A). That's only 2.98 cents off from 540. To our ears, it's about as good as Just.

Don't get hung up on the Berkeley document. That's just Pythagorean harmony. Even 12-TET harmony is more pleasing (slightly better thirds). Read up on Just Intonation if you haven't already. Pythagorean tuning is essentially 3-limit JI. 5-limit gives us ideal thirds (and 7-limit gives us the lovely subminor third).

[edit on 12-8-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 07:12 AM

Do not underestimate Pythagoras.
432 is in the Dorian range
540 can be found in Phrygian range.
www.harmonictheory.com...

posted on Aug, 14 2008 @ 02:38 PM
From that same site...

www.harmonictheory.com...

They're going well beyond Pythagorean intervals.

Pure Pythagorean tuning uses only ratios or divisors of 2 and 3. This is used as a starting point, numbers further up in the overtone series are introduced to generate the ratios of what is often called “Just tuning”: for example, 6:5, the just minor third (D–F).

That's 5-limit JI right there.

posted on Aug, 21 2008 @ 02:30 PM

540 is part of the Pythagoras triangle: 324 432 540 [3 - 4 - 5]
www.goddesschess.com...

There are 540 doors of Valhalla. 800 x 540 = 432,000
www.earthmatrix.com...

324 = 12 x 27 = 3 x 4 x 27 = 3 x 108
432 = 16 x 27 = 4 x 4 x 27 = 4 x 108
540 = 20 x 27 = 5 x 4 x 27 = 5 x 108

[edit on 21-8-2008 by hawk123]

posted on Aug, 24 2008 @ 02:55 AM
Hi

I don't know if anyone's done this in this thread so far.. I haven't really read through all 43 pages

But here is The first 35 seconds of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata played 4 different times. All tuned to a different hz. See without bias if it makes a difference (streaming player):

www.box.net...

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posted on Aug, 24 2008 @ 02:41 PM

- The second clip used 432 hz for A.

This is a very ODD combination.
The title is related to "Moonlight Sonata".

However 432 is related to the Sun (radius = 432 x 1000 miles)

See for Moon / Earth combination (related to 440 Hertz)
www.harmonictheory.com...

Some rumours on Beethoven:
freemasonry.bcy.ca...

[edit on 24-8-2008 by hawk123]

posted on Aug, 24 2008 @ 02:55 PM

Originally posted by hawk123

- The second clip used 432 hz for A.

This is a very ODD combination.
The title is related to "Moonlight Sonata".

However 432 is related to the Sun (radius = 432 x 1000 miles)

See for Moon / Earth combination (related to 440 Hertz)
www.harmonictheory.com...

Some rumours on Beethoven:
freemasonry.bcy.ca...
[edit on 24-8-2008 by hawk123]

well the actual title is "Piano Sonata No. 14 in C-sharp minor "Quasi una fantasia", Op. 27, No. 2"

Moonlight Sonata is just a popular title that was given to it by a music critic. So I doubt there is any moon/sun math. The songs a love song to his student anyway.

I just made it to see if anybody felt that 432 was any more special or nice sounding than any other frequency tuning.

EDIT:

well looks like my math was off a bit...
None of those actually use the 432 hz (sort of a double blind test now
)
I tuned down 64 cents on the 2nd one, when I just learned I was only supposed to tune down 32 cents. Though 64/2 does equal 32, I don't know.

Anyway I'm still trying to figure out if I get any different 'vibes'

64 seems to sound "better" to me then 32 though still..I don't know

[edit on 24-8-2008 by Reddupo]

[edit on 24-8-2008 by Reddupo]

posted on Aug, 25 2008 @ 12:22 PM

Beethoven composed the famous Moonlight Sonata in 1801 and dedicated it to one of his students, Countess Giulietta Guicciardi. Shortly after their first few lessons, the two fell in love. After dedicating the sonata to her, it is believed that Beethoven proposed. She was only 17 years old! Although she was willing to accept Beethoven’s proposal, her parents prohibited her from marrying him

The common title is the nickname that stuck after a critic wrote that the slow movement of ‘Piano Sonata Op. 27’, by Ludwig Van Beethoven, reminded him of moonlight on Lake Lucerne in Switzerland.

Beethoven simply called the sonata Sonata quasi una Fantasia Op27.

[edit on 25-8-2008 by hawk123]

posted on Aug, 27 2008 @ 09:01 AM

Originally posted by hawk123
Great post on 440 Hertz, which shows again that it is connected to the Earth, which is measured by the Moon.

Adding 88 Mercury rotation days around the sun gives 440 + 88 = 528.
And again we have the found the Baphomet code.

I know sooo little about 'music' 'frequencies', but I do access the info from a different perspective using archetypal interpretations that are transcendental.

kachina2012.wordpress.com...
kachina2012.wordpress.com...
kachina2012.wordpress.com...

Many what ifs? in those three links provided hawk 123.

i.e. ‘KEY 528′ = GRAVITY = Higgs Boson = SOUND = 57 Octaves below middle ‘C’ = phi?

namaste

CHi

[edit on 27-8-2008 by CHiram_Abiff]

posted on Aug, 27 2008 @ 09:05 AM
This topic reminds me of a saying us electronic/electrical engineers say..

"Real Men Do It With FREQUENCY"!!!

Cheers!!!

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