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well I've meet a whole lot of session players and professional musicians who do not use 440a.

that being aside there is nothing wrong with 440a. I use it. and I am a professional musician.

A lot of record producers too.

Lots of professional musicians use 440 because thats what their tuner does. but serious tuners like rack mounted ones do give you lots of options as to which a you want to tune to.

No out of tune is a difference of a few cents not a tiny difference of 3 hertz. No two instruments on any stage unless they are synthesizers are in perfect tuning with each other. so out of tune isn't the world I would use when the whole instrument drops a few cents or gains a few because the entire neck is warping due to heat and humidity.

Those rack mounted tuners are so that while in a concert they can monitor how far out their strings are going due to these environmental factors and then they tweak the instrument to keep it in line throughout the show when they get the chance. it's hard during a show to fully go over all the strings and tune everything, while trying to keep up with the schedule on the set list. Concerts work like a fine tuned machine and they can't take the time to completely retune the instrument or intonate it. if their lucky they'll have a tech guy who can do that. most bands and musicians don't have that luxury.

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If you are able to get the perfect Hz... for eternity-harmony with your guittars on a concert, you can bring peace on the world.
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Originally posted by BASSPLYR

No out of tune is a difference of a few cents not a tiny difference of 3 hertz.

The 3 Hz between ~50.45 and ~53.45 Hz is an entire semitone. Hardly tiny.


Incidentally, 53.45 Hz is 17.68 cents below A 54 Hz (432/8).

[edit on 14-7-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

so middle a should be somewhere around f# or G in 432 pitch? Thats a lot.

Why not advocate dropping the e string to Db and calling it E on a guitar. thats what everybody here is advocating.

[edit on 14-7-2008 by BASSPLYR]

Originally posted by NW111
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If you are able to get the perfect Hz... for eternity-harmony with your guittars on a concert, you can bring peace on the world.
Sounds good

well.. it sure can`t hurt to try......

Screw it I say we all just go back to a430. Why not. I hink a430 sounds better than a 432. and personally I don't like songs written in the key of a I prefer C,or Bb F is very pretty too. and A-0 is too low to sound clean even at 440 tuning. and in 432a tuning even c-0 would be too low to sound clean. we talking like 18 to 19 hertz or something. thats right on the threashold of human ability to even distinguish a coherent wave pattern audibly. not too smart for making music I guess. maybe it is wiser to make a440 so that the entire keyboard of the piano would actually be audible.

Originally posted by BASSPLYR
so middle a should be somewhere around f# or G in 432 pitch? Thats a lot.

Why not advocate dropping the e string to Db and calling it E on a guitar. thats what everybody here is advocating.

[edit on 14-7-2008 by BASSPLYR]

No, not at all. A 432 is 31.77 cents flatter than A 440. They're still within half a semitone of each other. It's far enough away to make a difference in sound, but not far enough so as to defy present classifications.

I aint good at math but according to your upper post wouldn't .5 hertz equal 17 cents. a whole hertz about 34 cents. 3 hertz a semitone. a semitone is defined as being separated by 100 cents thus 1200 cents to an octave.

so the difference from 440 to 432 would be 8 hertz. which would be just under three semitones away. so actually instead of a a would be g flatish. thats a big jump.

you said that 3 hertz equals the distance of one semitone and went on to show that by saying that the difference between 54 and 53.45 (a distance of .55) is equal to 17 cents. so a whole hertz it roughly 34 cents which would make sense so say that 3 hertz is roughly 100 cents the distance of one semitone. but then you say that a distance of 8 hertz is equal to 31 cents. less than a semitone.

My math is bad I guess I don't get it.

in regards to session work. I do it in LA. went to school for it. When a project I am helping manage has a budget that can't use a union session players double scale rates. I usually step in to do the parts "ghosting" for about a theird the price. helps keep the project within the budget. the a&R stays happy with our client (producer, usually) and all is well. I've done a lot of stuff. things you would hear on the radio. Saying what projects though would sorta identify just who I am. and I already have gotten into trouble before with someone in the industry who actually came across ATS and my posts when googling my bosses name. he had no clue what ATS was so It was a little awkward. so I don't go into too many specifics.

But yeah in the rock scene it's common to use tunings slightly below 440 to get a warmer rounder sound. Not too much but a little. Some producers do that as part of their signature sound. it's a trick to pull in the studio. sometimes they just drop everything down a little after it's been recorded in 440. It's not some big trip when they do it either. it's just part of the production process sometimes.

A lot of orchestras don't use 440. and a great deal of europe doesn't either neither does most of asia.

K, I just listened to that youtube video of 432 Hz. When it start to get higher, for some reason I started to panic, and I turned on all my lights, and closed my blinds. 432 Hz is not good for me ha.

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[edit on 15-7-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

Originally posted by BASSPLYR
I aint good at math but according to your upper post wouldn't .5 hertz equal 17 cents. a whole hertz about 34 cents. 3 hertz a semitone. a semitone is defined as being separated by 100 cents thus 1200 cents to an octave.

so the difference from 440 to 432 would be 8 hertz. which would be just under three semitones away. so actually instead of a a would be g flatish. thats a big jump.

you said that 3 hertz equals the distance of one semitone and went on to show that by saying that the difference between 54 and 53.45 (a distance of .55) is equal to 17 cents. so a whole hertz it roughly 34 cents which would make sense so say that 3 hertz is roughly 100 cents the distance of one semitone. but then you say that a distance of 8 hertz is equal to 31 cents. less than a semitone.

No; it's nonlinear. The only place a 3 Hz difference equals a (12-TET) semitone is between 50.45 Hz and 53.45 Hz...nowhere else. 3 Hz is a whole octave between 3 Hz and 6 Hz, for example.

Our perception of pitch as compared to frequency is logarithmic. The difference between two frequencies in cents is 1200 times the difference in binary logs of the frequencies. Between 440 and 432 Hz you have 31.77 cents.

Between A 440 and A 432 is 8 Hz and 31.77 cents.
Down an octave, between A 220 and A 216 is 4 Hz and also 31.77 cents.

[edit on 15-7-2008 by nscopheacriaaclters]

Ah now it makes sense. thank you for explaining it for me.

Still no cpnspiracy though.