Off Topic: For all those that think being in Skunkworks is a sure thread killer, this thread ought to show them that it's the material, not so much which forum it's in that matters.

Multiple pages with 60 replies, 10 flags, and an applause, according to the OPs profile. That's sure not bad for a first thread on these boards. I've had a lot of my threads tank with a LOT less, no matter what forum they were in. (And this one starting on the holidays was already handicapped by the fact that a lot of people are off the boards.)

OP, as I said earlier on page one, good thread. Very interesting.

Many of us have looked at the governments use of "sound weapons" being used by the police and the military, and admitted to in the mainstream media. This may be another instance. I wonder what pitch those "sonic cannons" are set to?

Well you might have guessed by now I don't buy into the idea of an NWO and what I see is more of an OWD (Old World Disorder) with little hope of forseeable improvement.

But music outlives any dynasties
I must admit tones did have colours associated with them - particularly in the 60's and 70's

Considering old world technology centuries back without the aid of frequency counters, the frequencies (tones) of the scale would be carried on solely by aural interpretation plus with a few fairly constant sources of those tones for reference which is how the oboe came to be the reference standard. I can't put a date on when A actually became A though but suffice to say it was centuries ago and the actual frequency would have been subject to variation due to individual perception.

The date proposed for standardising the frequency of A probably coincides with the development of gadgets capable of doing such a measurement and the guys in the white coats & thick glasses who produce that sort of gear were quite possibly tonedeaf anyway and opted for a round number 440Hz. If the assertion is correct for a true natural A actually being 432Hz they only missed by 1/3 of a semitone so it's still a virtual bullseye but I can't see any dark undertones (pun) associated with that.

Me - I just enjoy the music and leave the maths & science out of it (mostly)

If you record bird song you will see that it uses 432 resonation.
the same with bees.
Also the sound of a waterfall or the whistle of the wind...all
in 432 resonance, also the roar of a hurricane or the spinning of the earth.
or a galaxy....all adhere to the 1 cosmic resonance.

432 is within the range of our hearing and even more so in the range of the human voice so its the number we can most relate it to.

mark roden(and the hebrew code) are both implying is that this is the base primmer and sequences for equations that lead to perpetual motion,
zero point energy and every other amazing science that has been hidden from us.
what I wouldn`t give to be a scientist right now..

[edit on 24-12-2007 by Maya432]

um...have i used up my editing priviliges.
I use it allot because of my terrible spelling..
its just that now I don`t seem to have the option to edit my posts anymore.

-Bobby

Originally posted by Maya432
um...have i used up my editing priviliges.
I use it allot because of my terrible spelling..
its just that now I don`t seem to have the option to edit my posts anymore.


-Bobby

hm I see the edit tab just after i finish a post,,, i`m confused now

The edit function is temporary after each post, allowing members to make changes if they see the need. That function disappears after a reasonable amount of time.

I forgot to wish everyone a merry christmas....so...MERRY CHRISTMAS
everyone.....may your days be filled with love.harmony and balance.
-Music is Magic
-Bobby

I've studied music most of my life, not just instruments, but also theory as well as recording and sound engineering.

Did you know that many classical bands don't even tune to 440 anymore? But.. wait for it, its not 432 they're tuning to, they're tuning more around 447, since they're looking for that 'brighter' sound. This drift has been happening over time.

main reason A wa sused, to my understanding was that was the base note for the divisions of notes. Now, as any musician known, all notes exept for the base note are some degree of out of tune with the rest of the scale, since the division itself is imperfect, and no, tuning down to 432 doesn't help. Ask any guitarist and they will all complain that their g string always sounds slightly out of tune when played open unless they have a compensating nut on their axe. even when tuned to a perfect g note. It will sound 'off' compared to the rest.

heres teh rub, the tuning itself doesn't matter near as much, and most of what you get effectwise is more psychosomatic than real. your speakers, the musicians grip on the instrument and even the temperature all affect the pitch being sent out to you.

changing the base number doesn't suddenly make all the calculations work, its just being played flat.

IIRC, 439 was also heavily pushed to be the standard, but they had a hard time reproducing that tone in a lab because it was a prime number (heard in passing)

i agree with one of the previous posters that digital is killing the music. theres something missing from it and usually its the incidental tones and frequencies that we cant discernably hear. some of those sub and ultra sonics ar elost. but they were also lost on a lot of vinal recordings as well.

Now, if digital is recorded full spectrum and high definition (very high sampling rates) it can be a work of beauty, as long as you have a sound system that can faithfully reproduce it, which almost no one does.

btw, bending a note *raises* the pitch, not lowers it.

its a godo theory though, and I'll look ito it more this week, since for all I know, I can always learn more.