Newton defended the Pythagorean doctrine that the harmonic ratios found in music operate throughout the entire universe, arguing that the rainbow of colors in the visible spectrum progresses in a series of mathematical ratios like those Pythagoras discovered in the world of sound.

If music is colour, then I am wondering if the rainbow would play 440 Hertz.

As far as i can see this is connects pretty much everything. Its like an equation, 440 can only get you so far so to speak, its false, 432 really does open the universe. Its the perfect piece in the puzzle.

amazing

Now
from just a musicians standpoint,
I guess what is next is to find out (if possible)
just what(if any) affect/s this 432hz has.

from a scientific standpoint.....WOW....
where to start...lol
like i`ve said before .."What I wouldn`t give to be a quantum
physicist right now.

is it the center of our universe..??
the ultimate zero point..?

light, sound, distance, frequency...intimately connected...

i was actually thinking about that, could it be linked to Zero point energy?....

Originally posted by Maya432
Now
from just a musicians standpoint,
I guess what is next is to find out (if possible)
just what(if any) affect/s this 432hz has.

from a scientific standpoint.....WOW....
where to start...lol
like i`ve said before .."What I wouldn`t give to be a quantum
physicist right now.

is it the center of our universe..??
the ultimate zero point..?

light, sound, distance, frequency...intimately connected...

$32 might have more impact as the discovery by Galileo.
Galileo was a son of a famous musician and music theorist.

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432:384 = 9:8 (wholetone) (radius sun x 1000)
486:432 = 9:8 (wholetone)
512:486 = 256:243 (leimma, i.e. halftone)
576:512 = 9:8 (wholetone)
648:576 = 9:8 (wholetone)
729:648 = 9:8 (wholetone)

768:729 = 256:243 (leimma, i.e. halftone)
864:768 = 9:8 (wholetone) (diameter sun x 1000)
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The planet Venus is related to 243 (Leimma, i.e. halftone)
The Venus day is exactly two-thirds of an Earth-year (243 Earth days).
Again the same digits as in 432.

Sorry to jump to the last post with out reading it all.

I know we are talking tuning for music. A=440 A=436 A=444. I don't think it matters unless you want to create music with others.

I set up my guitars (a while back) using A=436. It made singing easier for me. With reference, we do have to talk pure sine wave. Harmonics. Overtones. Later.

Listen to A=432 in one ear and A=436 in the other. Not too loud. Take care of your ears. Can you hear the beat?

A while back I tuned my guitars for A=440. The strings were higher, at the first octave fret.

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Where does one start when the object of criticism is a garbage pile? ....oh well, someplace I suppose. There is natural tuning, and there is tempered tuning. There have been all kinds of opinions on what a tuning standard should be but in the long run economic won out. Tempered tuning simply cost less. And while it is not perfect, like natural tuning, it has more variety and is flexible, natural tuning is not. (And as far as A:440, not every one tunes to it now. A few symphonies like 442. They think it gives them a brighter sound.)

Let's say we lived before Mr. Bach when natural tuning was the thing. If you were a horn player you had to travel with several horns all tuned to different keys because with natural tuning you can only play in one key on one horn (it has to do with the overtone series, which are natural vibrations up that also add to the sound of a tone even if they are in the background.) Harmonicas and accordions and somewhat that way still. Imagine the problem if you were a piano player instead of a horn player. You have to haul around several instruments or re-tune in between songs in different keys. Mr. Bach thought this was nonsense. Essentially the history of music is pre-Bach, and pot-Bach, he was such a monumental musician. While the rhythms may differ the harmonies sung or played today are Mr. Bach's, from hard rock to babbling hip hop, Mr. Bach still rules. By parsing out the distances between notes, that is abandoning natural tuning, he was able to lower some notes a little raise some a little and where there were previously eight notes create 12. Tempered tuning. Well, the results was immediate. Once it has been figures out it had to be applied to instruments but that meant you could play in all keys on ONE instrument instead of owning a multitude. That is what the work The Well-Tempered Clavier is all about, playing in all 12 keys on ONE instrument. Practical, economical...that's a a hard due to break even for Gobles. As for natural tuning....musically today it is an affectation that few take seriously. And there is a good reason for this. Natural tuning sounds out of tune as soon as it leaves its central position. Go up or down a little and it begins to sound sour to our ears. So I don't think there is a conspiracy anywhere near turning.

sorry if it's already been asked:

1) I'm trying to modify some audio file with Audacity, does 440hz equals to 44100hz and 432hz to 43200hz?
Because there aren't values as low as 440hz, 432hz , just 5 digit numbers.

2) And what are their values in khz?

3) Do I simply need to modify the frequency of whatever audio file with a program similar to audacity or do I need to record them in the right frequency?

4) Do you know a program that helps you tune an instrument at 432hz?

5) Does the sound remain apparently the same?

6) Burning the files as an audio cd are the frequencies altered to the standard 440hz or whatever else, or does it remains as they were?

[edit on 7-6-2008 by hookedfish]