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NWO is responsible for concert pitch A-440hz

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posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 04:18 PM
reply to post by Maya432
thats the sound ive been looking for my whole life

posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 04:25 PM
Not sure if this hurts or helps my case but......
I copied from a blog .... so I realize it has no scientic or credible info.
but it was an interesting short description.

"Some years ago. my father had a friend who built an electronic tuner and tunes his piano with it(i think it was back in the 60s). To his horror, when he hit C, every c on the piano began to resonate sympathetically. When he called in the professional, he got an explaination of what tempering is, and why everything on the piano isn`t exactly on pitch,
and where those differences make things better, There is such a thing as tuning TOO precicely."
(unknown poster) his comment is at the very bottum of the page

it seems to imply that to achieve a well balanced harmonic tone then the 12 notes are indeed not equally partitioned..I believe this to be important for trying to calculate the hz/cycles per second and again I say the reason behind all the number/hz discrepancies we are seeing.

posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 04:31 PM

Originally posted by twestjr79
reply to post by Maya432
thats the sound ive been looking for my whole life

"This is genuinely fascinating to me. I am going to start re-tuning and I might even re-record my own music.
Thanks for promoting this tuning."( Charles Anthony..Producer of CKCU RADIO, Ottawa, Canada)

[edit on 31-12-2007 by Maya432]

posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 04:45 PM
reply to post by Maya432

Just trying to establish that yes there are a small but significant amount
of people that are aware of or interested in this tuning concept.
sorry for the mini sized post.

[edit on 31-12-2007 by Maya432]

posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 07:14 PM
Holy smokes go away for a few days and the thread blows up to 13 pages!

Hey I stand corrected, the earth's "note" is F# and wow you're right C-G are lovely fifths. Throw in a major seventh near the resolution of each verse and you've got Simon and Garfunkel's greatest hits.

I think it's more than music that's the magic part, it's the harmonics in general, and learning to see in music is a great way to tune to the bigger frequencies around us. Me, I can't do that, but the closest I get to that zone is feeling out a new song for an audience.

I think the actual souls involved in the music - the writer, the player, and the listener - all subtly affect the vibrations too, so no one person has control over the whole. We listen to chord and react strongly to it, and that changes the sound of the chord to other listeners, and even affects the musician, who knows it may go back up the ladder to the actual point where the song was written out of the mind of the composer.

No I don't have any proof. This is skunk works.

posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 07:36 PM
reply to post by Maya432

Hey, you were the one that made the assertion that the NWO decided that A440 would be the standard rather than A432. Whenever anybody has asked you to explain anything, you've responded with "I'm just a messenger." You have yet to establish a link from Goebbels to the NWO, or to show how they're keeping anyone from utilizing any tuning/pitch that they so desire. There are a multitude of artists out there(classical, jazz, avante garde, pop, etc..) that have experimented with all manners of tunings and sounds. If I saw some sort of enforcers of musical standards raiding performances, or arresting people for using altered tunings, I could concede some sort of conspiracy, but there are all sorts of industry standards out there. All that this does is provide a common baseline to start from. If everyone used different standards, there'd be no frame of reference.

What I'm trying to get you to understand is that there is nobody keeping any other standards of tuning secret, or prohibiting anyone from utilizing other tunings. If enough people agreed to change that standard it would happen. By mystical, a number of your reasons had to do more with Harry Potter than concrete evidence.

posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 09:13 PM
Hey bro, just wanted to get your opinion on satanic influence in music (very related to this topic). Just wrote a thread about it, give my name a click and have a read if you please.


posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 09:23 PM
no its not a secret .....but "If" the elite did have the power
and the desire to change it..they would and everyone would follow along
just like sheep.

I failed to link Goebbles to the nwo? your kidding right?

I was under the assumption that is is more than well known about the nazi connections to the nwo.
so i didn`t bother.

the only thing I`m trying to prove is that he was involved
in the 1939 conference on standard tuning in London.

I already know his basic history and he is the MASTER of Propanganda.
With all the crazy nazi experiments that after wwII turned into the C.I.A can watch this on the history channel...its rather common knowledge in the conspiracy world.
so the nazi /nwo connection does not in my opinion need to be discused here.

how did they keep us away from 432?
just look at the history of tuning in the last 300 years or so

sounds fishy

if enough people did it ,it would change? its not that simple.
do you know how many people marched againts the iraq war around the world in less than a week? was 12 million....12 million people marched
and those are just the ones who got out and actually marched, add that to the others who were on the same side but did not march...the number of people must be astronomical.

And it didn`t do once ounce of good.
I think you are underestimating the power of the nwo.

ps .why you still on the "I`m the messenger" kick...that was so last week...

[edit on 31-12-2007 by Maya432]

posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 10:49 PM
reply to post by Maya432

I also found it strange that 432 is mentioned at the begining but only in a
voodoo mumbo jumbo flaky way.
makes it even more suspicious

I meant to say he mentions the earth rotation and how relates it to 430
and its connection with nature but I think mabey he was really talking about 432 ..( as to not attract any attention to 432)
And the way he saw it as amusing was a bit odd...
as to imply it was just voodoo mumbo jumbo .

posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 11:24 PM
Happy new year to every single one of you and yours.
and happy new year to ATS.

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 02:46 AM
reply to post by Maya432

No- I wasn't kidding. I haven't seen anything in your arguments that link Goebbels and the NWO. Does everyone that aspires to world domination fall under the NWO, or can you distinguish ideologies from left and right? There are some pretty distinct differences.

You still haven't shown how anyone is forcing the music world as a whole into accepting A440 as a standard, against their will. The fact that Goebbels was into propaganda doesn't necessarily mean that A440 was propaganda. There are an awful lot of loose ends in your assertion, that you have failed to answer(as you believe that many of these things are just foregone conclusions that anybody would come to the same conclusion with).

Show some evidence to the fact that the NWO cares one iota about A440 vs A432, and that it's controlling the music world as a whole with regards to their preferences. Show an example of someone not submitting to their control, and the penalty for such insolence. The facts are that there just isn't any such thing.

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 03:56 AM

Originally posted by Maya432
one question for anyone who might know.
I thought the doppler thing was for moving objects and not stationary ones
Does anyone know if this is right .?
Not important ...,.I was just wondering.

I did a fair bit of live n loud playing as well as listening (don't ask how many decades ago
) and that 'doppler effect' was obvious to me. The name is only because it 'resembles' a true doppler effect but what's actually happening is the intensely loud music applies an abnormal pressure to your ear drum which changes the geometry of the inner ear (a bias if you like) and that's what causes a slight shift in perceived sound frequency compared to normal volume listening.

If you subject your ears to such loads often and long enough the change will become a permanent thing eventually leading to deafness. I do notice more & more artists these days using special ear plugs to guard against it and you'd have noticed that studio recordings are done at very modest sound pressure levels to get the best (all in tune) results.

As to guitar geometry (fret, nut and bridge location), it's all based on that factor I mentioned a few times. The 12th fret is the exact centre of the string so it produces a frequency exactly double that of the open string making it 1 octave higher. A good quality instrument has built-in compensation via independant bridge position adjustment on each string plus slightly biassed fret position for things like the action and string thickness which affects the string tension when you press the string down.

I've always tuned by getting the open A string right first, then using harmonics to tune the other strings to it without introducing any bias caused by pressing strings down.

I talk too much

[edit on 1/1/2008 by Pilgrum]

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 01:43 PM
reply to post by GT100FV

there are not as many loose ends as you would imply.
if you read this whole thread you see it has ALOT more to do with than just nwo/432-440.
you are looking at this thread with blinders on.
Mabey I gave the thread the wrong title.
mabey I should have called it something like.
the plato code,NWO,and the music science and spirtual connection.

because this thread is mostly about Platos theory of EVERYTHING.
wich covers alot of topics at once which is why this thread can get rather confusing at times.

One question for you(GT100FV)
do you truly believe that there is no connection with the Nazi and the NWO?
because there is so much info available about it that I really don`t think it is nessecary to re-hash it all here

[edit on 1-1-2008 by Maya432]

[edit on 1-1-2008 by Maya432]

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 01:45 PM

Originally posted by NewWorldOver
Hey bro, just wanted to get your opinion on satanic influence in music (very related to this topic). Just wrote a thread about it, give my name a click and have a read if you please.


Cool...I will look at your info and let you know what I think.

[edit on 1-1-2008 by Maya432]

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 02:16 PM
Hi (GT100FV)
I have another question to go with my other one.

do you think the NWO even exists?
and do you think it is EVIL and/or a bad thing.
sorry for the small post.

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 02:18 PM
reply to post by Maya432

As far as I know, NWO concept is based on FreeMason foundation.
Part of it is the Mysterious ladder:
432 is related for the seven liberal arts:
Pythagoras made already this connection.

If 432 was based on NWO then you break above connection.

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 02:58 PM
reply to post by hawk123

ok but where do you think the masons come from? goes much much farther back in time than the masons..much farther.(thousands of years)

I believe the ground level concepts of masons to be a very pure and decent thing.
although some masons become NWO , I do not blame the masons
or think they are bad.
in fact the most of them are probably very cool.

But the NWO is NOT based on the masons.

but the masons are used by the NWO...
its a good place to look for certain people with certain skills and beliefs.
there are so many facets of the NWO which date back thousnads of years
under different names and forms.

Yes Pythagoras made already this connection...your right

and Socrates was trying to teach some of this science(and was Ridiculed for it,just the same way the MSM news would today).

and his evil little
rich elite student Plato who in my opinion was part of the NWO
of the time(or what ever they called it then)
tainted the science and hid the good stuff from the common man.

I must admit is is rather amusing to listen to us discuss World Elite
Powers and thier secrets and knowledge.
they have to ability to pull the wool over our eyes in ways that we could not even imagine. but this is what curious minds like ours must do.

if we keep bouncing thoeries off each other long enough I`m sure we will all learn something.

oh...and we seem to have a kind of different definition of "432"
you relate it to the mason

and I`m relating it to a resonant frequency and its functions
which require all the elements you just listed.....interesting stuff man.

...its all connected and in some way all means the same thing I`d bet

this is very cool ...thank you very much for the input and I welcome more .


PS. when I use the term "NWO" its a broad description for the
secret powers/elite/dynasty/ and does not reflect any one time or era.

[edit on 1-1-2008 by Maya432]

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 03:07 PM
The first effort to institutionalize A=440 in fact
was a conference organized by Joseph Goebbels in 1939,
who had standardized A=440 as the official German pitch.

By September 1938, the Accoustic Committee of Radio Berlin requested
the British Standard Association to organize a congress in London
to adopt internationally the German Radio tuning of 440 periods.
This congress was in London in May 1939 (Before the war)

Anyone with relevant knowledge on a certain topic can contribute to the British Standard Association and therefore I do not agree that this decision is made by the NWO.

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 03:24 PM
reply to post by Maya432

Our answers and questions crossed each other. This is a post on your question:
Since masons history goed back to the temple of Solomon, and the Jewish people have stayed for 400 years in Egypt, I expect that 432 goes back to the Egypt time.
Also Pythagoras has been in Egypt and I think het got his knowledge also in Egypt.

The seven liberal arts are all connected.
432 is related to the Sun
432 in Gematria is called "Cosmic Key"
432 in music is the pitch you are referring.
432 can also be expressed as a Music color.

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 03:32 PM
For the liberal art Geometry, 432 is connected to the "Cube"

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