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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 06:38 PM by dgtempe
reply to post by Conundrum04


Sorry, Not American and Not a PIG.

My husband won the lottery with me!




reply posted on 5-1-2008 @ 06:56 PM by phatkhat
reply to post by Conundrum04



'American women are pigs'

And proof of this? Just try to find ONE married woman who feels she has any obligation to give sex to her husband. I couldn't find any!


reply posted on 5-1-2008 @ 11:00 PM by Conundrum04
reply to post by dr_strangecraft



I just speak from my experience and also observation.

I used to play college football and used to get a lot of tail. After me and my college girlfriend of 5 years split, I realized it was a lot harder to sustain a long term relationship with other women(3 months tops). I realize now that if you don't have history or association(school/work) with a woman, it makes it much harder for a long term relationship(unless you have power) to work.

Right now, I don't even bother looking for a woman to ask out. There is no point right now. Any kind of intimate association with a female at this time in my life would be a major, major distraction.

I'm working on achieving my goals first and once these goals are achieved I won't have work too hard to get american women(women in general) because I will be in a position of power. It is a lonely journey but it has a big payoff.

Now mind you, I'm not pursuing a position of power for the sole purpose to get women. As a matter of fact, when I started this journey years ago, I wasn't even concerned about power and I had a girlfriend anyway. I just realized from observation over time that this was absolute truth.

And yes. I didn't do anything for new years. It's just another night to try and get laid. Been there done that.








[edit on 5-1-2008 by Conundrum04]


reply posted on 5-1-2008 @ 11:58 PM by dr_strangecraft
reply to post by Conundrum04



I hear a couple of things coming through in your posts.

Maybe it was easier, back in college, for you to hook up with a certain kind of woman without much effort on your part.

college is a special time. There are a lot of girls in college looking for a fling with a guy they are not particularly interested in having breakfast with . . . or more importantly, building a family with.

Perhaps your tastes and expectations have changed since college. Maybe the sorts of encounters that met your needs back then don't meet your newer needs now.

For instance. I still appreciate looking at pretty women. But would I want to have a tryst with one? No. And not just because of my wife. But because I remember how essentially lonely it is for me to sleep with someone I wouldn't trust to hold my wallet for an hour, or to borrow my car for the weekend without wrecking it. I want a woman who makes me feel better about myself; and she's not sitting in some bar across town--she lives at my house.

I remember showing up at a social function, with people I admired (back when I admired people), and the pretty young thing on my arm was an embarrassment for the entire evening. She had no idea of what I did for a living, or of the concepts and issues the people in the room dealt with professionally. The other guests wanted to discuss politics, art, travel and 'culture.' She kept talking about TV.

That changed when I found a different life, and found a mate who makes me look good for want of a better phrase. She makes me look good to myself, even though no one else is looking.

Now, all the women you're complaining about just want someone they can be proud of, someone who "makes them look good." Maybe you want someone who makes . . . you look good (or feel good about yourself). And the women you are used to hooking up with don't do that anymore.

Point is, to me it sounds like you are projecting. Projecting your own dissatisfaction onto other people. Other people weren't put on this earth for the purpose of loving you. Other people are not responsible for your happiness.

There is an incredible variety of women out there, like snowflakes. If you're experience is negative, then it reflects as much on your experience as it does on the women you've dealt with.



An old girlfriend: "You are the lousiest lover on the whole freakin' planet!"

Me: "I don't believe you. That would be too much of a coincidence."


The Upshot is, not all women are money-hungry pigs. My wife makes about 20 grand a year more than I do. She has for the whole decade of our marriage, except for two years, I think. I met her when she was finishing up a prestigious graduate program, and had job offers that paid more than any job I've ever even applied for. And she married me when I was an unemployed, un-funded grad student. Is she a pig?

Finding a good person, a permanent thing, is hard work. Most of the men I know (I don't know you) that scream about the shortcomings of women are unwilling to do the hard work of hunting down the one they want.

That, and they expect beautiful women to hang around with a slob who wont even comb his hair, and who cannot be bothered to take them on a real date.



Note: having her watch you play halo 3 with your friends is not a date. Taking her to the mall isn't, either. Unless she's the girl I was embarrassed by at the party . . . .

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[edit on 6-1-2008 by dr_strangecraft]


reply posted on 6-1-2008 @ 12:04 AM by Enthralled Fan
reply to post by Conundrum04



So, while you were in college and played football, you got a lot of tail, yet you had a girlfriend for 5 years?

What's wrong with this picture?

I somehow think the problem with women being "pigs" to you, has nothing to do with how you describe them.

If I had a boyfriend that got lots of tail while he was supposedly with me, you betcha I'd get everything I could outa the guy that I could, and then dump him like a hot potato!

Just out of curiousity, since you feel American women are "pigs," what barnyard animal would you use to describe yourself?

Rear end of a donkey, per chance?


reply posted on 6-1-2008 @ 06:00 AM by phatkhat
reply to post by dr_strangecraft



lol...and that little gem is obviously a little fact. And your saying she should decide everything?
The point is > marriage and relationships are only good for those who are looking to raise a family, and face it, most men aren't. If you can get >hookers< for same price as the cost of the date, why even bother?


reply posted on 6-1-2008 @ 02:37 PM by MajorMalfunction
reply to post by Conundrum04



Aha. I see your problem, now.

You objectify women. they're not people to you, they are objects.

That's why you can't find a woman worth being with -- you have to be worthy of one first.

I sincerely hope that someday you'll wake up and see the error of your ways. Maybe then you'll find a female that doesn't reflect what you're putting out into the world yourself.


reply posted on 6-1-2008 @ 02:54 PM by phatkhat
reply to post by MajorMalfunction



'Well, if you like disease-ridden skanks, then there probably isn't that much difference after all. Or maybe the callgirls there are pretty even in strong lighting, and are stunning conversationalists.'

so all who sleep around are 'diseased ridden?' Those concerns fell by the wayside since the sexual revolution ...you still livin the 50s

'For me personally, I don't measure the success of a date using some sort of cost/benefit analysis where coitus and currency collide. But hey, that's just me.'

ya, so you just don't mind sleeping with something that looks like...you know..lol...your choice.


reply posted on 6-1-2008 @ 05:38 PM by antar
reply to post by MajorMalfunction



This guy got his views on American women from watching FOX and Friends !LOL
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