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posted on Jan, 14 2008 @ 05:59 PM
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"Phatkhat,


you a family man? the sex part is almost strictly a guy thing.


You have no idea or concept of how wrong you are here. Not a clue. "


Hey, I admit this khat has only scratched the surface here, but I was refering to 'secret titan' and his posts. He seems to be a her underneath. How many guys you know would turn down sex??

And no doubt the feminist movement is being played or is a tool of a consumerist driven society. You can see this happening right in front of you in regards to the computer industry. A major solution is now here to many a guy's problems in the form of virtual reality. The head mounted displays are now cheap enough, the graphics are real enough, but why no games that directly simulate sexual acts? Sure they have a few 'sex games' out there but they almost all in third person or have very limited control (Little more than a TV remote) and lousy graphics. If such software came out, you know it would sell like hotcakes, but all you see is what looks like a tease. It's almost like they telling you "you want more? Get the real thing!"

But you have some guys who make patches and mods to high end games that do a much better job than the official sex games offered. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the government took some kind of action on this, either through blackmail, sabotage, or simply using some nonsense like 'degradation of women' as an excuse.

You do remember that article about sex with robots in 5 years and how the experts were suggesting legislation to restrict them as to not looking too human? BINGO

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posted on Jan, 14 2008 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by orangetom1999
Thanks for the site with the Philys Schaffley Report. I have bookmarked it for further reading at a later time.

The reason I give her a thumbs up is because on this topic women who speak up against it can be heard more often than if a man speaks out about it,where its too easy for many men or women to view him as a pig,let me know your thoughts of what she has written even by u2u some time.


I also believe there are other movements hijacked and being directed in the same manner...occult, concealed, esoteric. It is my belief that politics itself uses this same fingerprint quite often...occult , esoteric, concealed to direct social engineering projects for the purposes of the body politic. Not necessarily for the benifit of the public but to protect someone or some group pulling strings of our leaders.

Yep didn`t mean it to sound as though this is the one and only issue,but is one major tentacle of the octopus.Just trying to stay on topic,although I know we see eye to eye on this issue for the main part.


I speak not only of this country America but others too. I think your country and England are advanced testing grounds for these programs. Sweden is another.

Running the risk of off topic here,though I suspect your referring to gun laws mainly,which I see no need for guns anyway, whether NWO type tests or not removed them.Thou shalt not kill, even if threaten with death still applies.
And usually its our country following yours.


It is my belief that the soapies..have been replaced to a large part in the evenings by situation comedys. Soapies are still popular but they have been replaced and supplimented by talk shows and sitcoms to keep the momentum going. Directed to an audience primarily of women and the effeminate. All of these are what I consider in the Lowest Common Denominator of programming...and it is programming. Monkey see monkey do. That is the intention of these programs. Very powerful on the undiscerning.

Agreed and the undiscerning is not gender biased thats also agree upon.



Phatkhat

To your last post,if this is what some males are complaining about these days this planet is more messed up than I had ever imagined.Lost for words at the moment other than to add there are somethings I dont need to know and will be glad to be in ignorance of it.



posted on Jan, 15 2008 @ 03:29 AM
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phatkhat,

I understood that you were refering to secret Titian and his posts.


How many guys you know would turn down sex??


I know lots of guys who have turned down sex. What are you thinking here? Ive turned it down. Lots of times.

If Ive learned one thing by turning it down..it is that some women dont take rejection any better than men.

I believe that you are stuck on this mental judo in the marketplace where you think that sex/sexuality and access to the female body is a commodity in short supply. Hence it is an extremely valuable commodithy due to its shortage in the marketplace. It is not ...at all.

Watch how this mental judo works with women and among women.

When you have one or more women in a social structure sleeping around more than the others there is a percieved competition. Make no mistake ..women are very competitive in this arena. Mentally it becomes .."she's sleeping around and giving it away more often and more cheaply than I am willing to give it away..thus lowering my value in the marketplace. Competition..unfair labor practice.
A male is so dirt stupid ..he can only breath a sigh of relief..that there is more of it available in the marketplace. He does not generally see what a female will clearly see in this situation. This concept of control by women in a social structure is sometimes refered to by the term..female mafia. This is how they control value of a commodity in a social marketplace.

Phatkhat..do you have any idea of how many women out here will sleep with you rather than do the work required to maintain real commitment??
YOU dont find poll numbers on this either but the numbers would be higher than most suspect. This is called the appearence of commitment rather than the work requried to maintain real commitment. Dont ever buy into the idea that men are the only commitment phobes out here. Plenty of women are gifted with this phenomonon too.

Once again..not all women out here are like this but it is more common than ever polled or spoken about. YOu will not learn this from most women either. Ironically most men will not speak of it ..they simply never think much in this arena. Hence women can keep this hidden by silence.
Im telling you phatkhat ..there are some really dumb men out here as a whole. And it is the males fault.
This is why some of the women on this post are so disgusted with stuff like conundrum04 posts. They know things he does not..and they are not about to clue him in except by scorn.

YOu need to teach yourself to think and expect outside the standard male settings. Most of the male settings on the male dials of this topic ..are like..dumb.

GPS777,
No I was not refering to the gun laws at all. I was refering to the neutering of the social structure and particularly the male.
Politics is by its very nature a very femminine occupation.whether occupied by males or females. Politics including social engineering...is a occupation where you can play through ..default through ..by force of law. The body politic can take credit for success and transfer blame for failure...just like a automatic default. They can reshuffle the cards in a deck and not often be noticed by the bulk of the public. The body politic can gain access to moneys without really working for it or taking risk. default again. In short..the body politic can be quite a whore...and not be seen(occult) except by the most perceptive. Got the point here??
Someone or some group is social engineering the social structure in your country....by deafult. They would like to implement the same whoredom here. Your country is easier to impliment such whoredom because your nation follows more closely the law of the Soverign than does America. This represents a huge difference in law and jurisprudence.
However more and more here in America we are implimenting, without the awareness of most Americans, the law of the soverign by means of Executive orders and Admiralty Maritme law.(default law)
This is a great concern of many with the Patriot Act here and not without foundation.

Gotta go,
Thanks to all ,
Orangetom



posted on Jan, 15 2008 @ 05:17 AM
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Originally posted by orangetom1999

No I was not refering to the gun laws at all. I was refering to the neutering of the social structure and particularly the male.

Someone or some group is social engineering the social structure in your country....by deafult. They would like to implement the same whoredom here.

Ok my mistake then about the gun laws must have gotten mixed up from reading your views of them on another thread,but it has been my impression your country is no different than ours as far as males are concerned.

More often than not, people in general from other countries know more about America than average Americans know about other countries,we get your shows,news etc.more often than not what happens over there then gets brought here.

What is it about Australia that we are a whoredom compared to your country, that is being tested here and not there? Maybe this is better for another thread to discuss this point if you like?

As far as I know in the UK USA Aus NZ are all in the same boat as far as males are concerned.With the US forcing their ways more often on other countries and they also have done this to Australia.

Example,on the day of 9/11 our Prime Minister was over there in NY at the time not far from the towers in a hotel, waiting to see your Pres about unfair trade agreements who previously snubbed our PM who went over there and no one would even speak to him the first time,the towers fell, our PM invoked the ANZ treaty in support of the US immediately, eventually the PM saw your Gov officials about the unfair trade agreement that was happening to us,a deal was made only if we took more of your TV shows again more monkey see monkey do of your country on ours.

Another example no sooner had the bombs stopped being dropped out of planes in Afghanistan the womens movement was on the ground installing western womens rights to them,which should be all well and good if it weren`t the version we know.



In short..the body politic can be quite a whore...and not be seen(occult) except by the most perceptive. Got the point here??

I`m well aware yes that politics can be and is used thats whats puzzling,what I`m wondering is whether you mistake stupidity with uneducated by asking such questions,or whether you have over looked posts that I recently posted or even in this very thread regarding the occult if I wasn`t already aware.Although I`m not up to speed as some, I do know more than most imo,I see its tentacles though I`m reluctant to go in too far, just to study it.



posted on Jan, 15 2008 @ 05:32 AM
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'I know lots of guys who have turned down sex. What are you thinking here? Ive turned it down. Lots of times.'

ok, I take the GQ types that can get any girl are able to do that, but most guys would naturally would jump at the change. And yeah, they mostly use their little heads, which very often gets them into fiascos.

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posted on Jan, 15 2008 @ 05:52 AM
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"To your last post,if this is what some males are complaining about these days this planet is more messed up than I had ever imagined.Lost for words at the moment other than to add there are somethings I dont need to know and will be glad to be in ignorance of it."

lol..it is. The worse of it is in Japan. something like 80% of the youth there have replaced cyber-sex with real sex. Even the redlight districts are ghost towns, I hear. Whatever the women are doing over there to scare off the males is not clear, but they coming to the west to get men. But the west is following Japan's example, about 1/3 of the youth in N America, Australia, and Europe prefer getting sex via with computers.



posted on Jan, 15 2008 @ 10:04 AM
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phatkhat,


i]k, I take the GQ types that can get any girl are able to do that, but most guys would naturally would jump at the change. And yeah, they mostly use their little heads, which very often gets them into fiascos.


First off I am not a GQ type. No intrest in that either. I've just been around long enough to have see some of this with my own eyes...soul.

Agree about the little head..quite correct..dont you be one of them. Your time and moneys are valuable. dont make a career of selling yourself short by trying out for approval in desperation.

However you are correct ..most men would jump...in desperation.

About Japan..I think you mean replaced sex with cybersex. Cybersex here is the new pornography.

Pornography definition....access to dreams, fantasys, expectations cheaply and inexpensively also without risk/rejection and often without work.

The men are learning that it is easier in the cyber world to replace the risk against a rigid male/female social structure still in existance in Japan. THe women are learning that they must find more fertile fields before the biology runs out and the clock strikes midnight, Cinderella. Pumkin time!! Intresting. I did not know that. Apparently it is not broadcast over here that much outside of certain communications arenas.


GPS777,

The political whoredom of which I speak is the political social neutering of the male. This is taking place at a faster pace in your country verses here.
Your posts and other articles I have read make this quite clear. The pace is occuring much faster over there, New Zealand, and other countrys.
The male is slated to be reduced to a worker bee drone. This is politically the bee hive system..if you know the occult principle on this. The bee hive system is the pyramid system. This is feudalism. A return to feudalism.

There is a larger population here making this type of implimentation more difficult. This applies to the communications programming too..radio/television et al. These things can take effect more rapidly in a country like yours with the law of the Soverign in effect and also a smaller, more easily controlled and managed test group. Same with New Zealand. Utopia here on earth is what they want. Eden. They think social engineering is the way to get it. Public education financed by the body politic is full of this social engineering. I suspect it is worse and happing more rapidly in education down under because of that smaller and more easily controlled test group.

Alot of our social programming trends come from the UK and the Continent. It is just modified by Hollywood to appeal to US audiences thus making new trends acceptable here. From here it comes to you folks...simply because of the volumes produced.

I knew something was happening down under years ago when all these Crocodile programs and movies started showing up here..then followed by a resturant called The Outback. This was a indicator that Australia was moving up in the world to take her place. You will be paying a heavy price for this affluence....as do we. But remember...you have a smaller populace than we...so the effects will be more noticable and more immediate. Alot of this whoredom is being done by outsiders as it is so here. The male must be controlled..neutered. This control can be much more easily done to the female than the male simply by maneuvering the social structure/economics...media, education, brainwashing, entitlement religions which you see all around you. The female is more malliable here by this method.. The male is made malliable and controllable by getting to the female and kids while he is working his backside off....got it?? It is a rigged show.

I am also saying here that the US is just as much a part of the control group as is other countrys but because of the size of our populace it appears different. It is not.

Suggest you read.. "The Empire of the City" By E. C. Knuth. Very intresting book about the special relationship between the English Crown and leaders here in the US. Also about the Crowns investments world wide...and how they have been defended by the blood and maneuverings of others..including Asia and down under. It is not a thick book at all..but very informative and detail/information packed.

Hope you can follow my points.

Thanks,
Orangetom


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posted on Jan, 15 2008 @ 12:21 PM
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GPS777,

Up until your posting of that article about Phylis Schaffly's book and stance I was pretty much unaware of this view among women.

I agree with most all of what is in the article. I did not expect such detail and name dropping in it.

I am also aware that something of great importance happened around that incident at the Augusta Masters Golf Tournament. This incident happened with such rapidity in the news media...huge blowout over it nationwide and then it disappeared just as rapidly. I knew by the speed of its disappearence that something happened about which the public was not supposed to be knowlegable..at all.

I have known for years now what it means to be a private organization like the Masters Golf Club/Tournament..and not receiving government subsidys/handouts.

When you or some group gets government funds you must tow the government line/rules..and change when ordered to change. This is the status of public schools, colleges, Organizations which receive government tax exempt status...501c's and others. Including most churchs.

As indicated by Phylis Schaffley...the womens groups through thier handlers have the ability to get most of the rules changed or modified to suit..in a manner not seen or known by the bulk of the public..hidden..concealed, esoteric, Occult. Not known by the public it claims to serve. This is politics...ie..whoredom...ie feudalism. No debate or counterpoints tolerated...they are intolerant while expecting others to be tolerant. A double standard. This fingerprint, I look for constantly when evaluating news and informations. You can clearly tell this fingerprint by the lack of dissenting opinion and ideas not tolerated on college campuses....while preaching tolerance. This is a sickness GPS777.

As I stated..this fingerprint is used by other groups than the Womens movement. It is very much used to default through in the public arena.

Thanks for the article
Orangetom



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 01:46 AM
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Cheers for the feed back and your review of it,it seemed like she had done her homework with a good head on her shoulders to me as well.



posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 07:53 PM
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update: I was basing my data on old articles of 2004 vintage, but now things have gotten much worse after almost 4 years:

'87% of Canadian college students are enjoying sex over the phone, IMs, or webcams. ' www.collegeclub.com...

And no doubt this not just taking place in Canada, as this tech is available worldwide. And I have read about the antics of feminists worldwide as well. The usual tactic is trying to tab just about every male as a potential rapist. Complaints of guys rubbing up against them, staring at them, crude language, and sexism abound almost everywhere. Just like in the article gps777 gave, and elsewhere.

prime example: Swedish military leaders to castrate a heraldic lion on the Nordic Battlegroup's coat of arms. www.upi.com...

This is the major reason Japanese men are staying clear of the women and sending the Japanese birth rate into a nose dive. And it's obvious to affect the rest of the industrialized world, as well.



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posted on Jan, 16 2008 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by Conundrum04
American women are pigs.

That's right I said it, pigs.

A pig is basically an animal that lives by living off of scraps and not caring about the mess they leave behind. A pig is not conscious of what they do, they just react to the situation that they are in. A pigs only purpose is wondering when their next meal is coming. A pig doesn't try to understand why they are a pig, they just want to associate with other pigs that don't question their piggy existence. A pig never appreciates a good meal, they expect it. A pig is a fat slab that only looks out for themselves, they have no real friends and use other pigs just to get more free meals. A pig doesn't look out for their other fellow piggies, they would rather the other pigs die so they can have more to eat.

American women are the biggest pigs on the planet right now but other western countries are following suit. A lot of men are pigs too, but women are the gatekeepers of pig mentality.

Stop endorsing piggy behavior folks!!!:bnghd:


I'd have to disagree with you. The majority of american women, fat or skinny, are [SNIP] puppets who have no respect for themselves nor anyone else.

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Mod edit: Vulgarity and The Automatic ATS Censors

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posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 05:34 PM
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posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 06:04 PM
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Outcast,
I told a guy once that he was "too much to handle". It was my polite way of saying, "I can't tolerate any more of your akward fumbling." You're right. It's nothing to brag about. Guys egos are such that a girl has to be polite and plus there's no reason to deliberately be cruel.

The mods who you trashed by calling "cowards" have generously allowed you to have another account here in order, I presume, to give you another chance to show that you can learn from your previous mistakes and curb your bile.

If you would like to carry on a civilized conversation about the differences between male and female behaviors and how you prefer one over the other, that would be an acceptable substitute for this thread which unapologetically categorizes all American women as pigs. Not only can you offer no real proof of this blanket statement but you don't even offer any suggestions on how to correct what you see as a problem. Pointless ranting, IMHO. Nothing CAN be learned or gained.

ATS is not a public toilet for your verbal diarrhea.



posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 06:50 PM
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It's a bedroom thing that draws women out of the cerebral realm and into the physical. Mental slaves can't understand this stuff because average/mediocre people are just that, mediocre and average. I would fight for you until I die but people like you won't fight for me. You'd rather wish I disappear(like the ATS mods).

It's very frustrating when you fight for others that don't have the understanding or even care about why you would fight for them.

This is the beginning of the end for America. So drink up!



posted on Jan, 17 2008 @ 11:05 PM
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Outcast 04/ Conundrum04,

You have lost me here.


I would assume that you'd never been in a situation where a woman was just no match for you in the bedroom. Has a woman ever told you that you are too much for her to handle? I have. Numberous times. It's nothing to brag about by the way. Has any woman ever called you "Mr. Perfect"?


I dont measure who and what I am by sex or sexuality. This is the fingerprint of this world and you are correct..it is nothing to brag about. If a woman called me Mr Perfect I would wonder what she had been drinking or smoking...or how desperate she is for attention.

Most of us are pretty average..but we try not to look down on people because they are average. For myself I try to look for people who can think outside the blocks of what constituted average today. Or even normal. But this does not make me better than others only different.


True wisdom lies within yourself and if you deny your physical self you deny your whole existence.


This is to me a very strange statement. True wisdom is the name of a person to me...not me, myself. I dont look for wisdom in myself. That doesnt make good nonsense to me unless I was into such self promotion.

As to celebrities..I am not intrested in them either..nor their sex lives. I dont live such a droll life that I must concern myself with the sex lives of those in hollywood or anywhere else. Actually..I rather tire of the gods/idols of hollywood and the music/sports industry. I think that most of them are a very sorry example for this country to be looking to for anything ..often even for entertainment.


It's a bedroom thing that draws women out of the cerebral realm and into the physical.


LOL LOL LOL...this is deep ..very deep..original too. I think you must have worked years on this one. My my..you most certainly are physical..not spiritual. Suggest you check out the spiritual side of things not the physical.
This does not apply to all women..some perhapsed..men too..but not all.

As to fighting for someone...are you a martyr?? I think I asked that of you in a previous post???
I also dont believe Whitewave needs you fighting for her either. Do you need the attention or approval that much?? You will find Whitewave pretty darned salty when she so desires. I have every confidence that Whitewave can hold her own quite well ..on this forum or in person. Whitewave knows how to use buckshot or rocksalt.


It's very frustrating when you fight for others that don't have the understanding or even care about why you would fight for them.


Ahh..yes..I agree. It can be frustrating. Good point again. Hence I wouldnt want you to fight for me to the goal of frustration. Neither would I think Whitewave would want you fighting for her. I can assure you that Whitewave has intimate knowlege of what is worth fighting over, when, and whom she wants fighting with her or on her team. From what I Know of Whitewave she is very selective and choosy here. Hence salty. She will let you know when you are ready for her team. So will I.

I have been in enough sticky situations on and off the job that I too, am also selective.
One of the yardsticks I use to tell the caliber of people with whom I would want standing next to or with me is their frustration levels. How easily they can be riled, panic or put on a string. Lots of people.. .."average" people use this yardstick. YOu might want to get a hint here for this can seperate the men from the boys and women from the girls very quick. Some of us even here on ATS/BTS use this yardstick to cull out the herd...not self promotion. A little salt helps too.

All you are doing and going to do here is confirm for me my point as to how dumb some men can actually be out here among the wildlife. By what you are telling on yourself I think the mods have figured this out for themselves.

Outcast04/Conundrum04, Welcome back to ATS/BTS. I was thinking I had not seen you on this thread for a few days.

Whitewave..you go girl....have plenty of Salt here if you need to borrow some.

Orangetom



posted on Jan, 19 2008 @ 01:11 AM
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'This is the beginning of the end for America. So drink up!'

I wouldn't exactly say it's the end for all of us, just feminism. Japan is going through pre-post-feminism stage at the moment. The USA and the rest will soon follow. And American women just like their Japanese counterparts, will start looking overseas and be on their best behavior.

A quick fix to the west's population problems would be for them to forget traditional monogamy and promote polygamy and just let those who want to have sex for fun, do so--with their cams, pc games, hookers, or robots. The only real threat arising from all this is that machines may rule us one day, or even eliminate us.


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posted on Jan, 20 2008 @ 01:19 PM
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Hey buddy,

I would assume that you'd never been in a situation where a woman was just no match for you in the bedroom. Has a woman ever told you that you are too much for her to handle? I have. Numberous times. It's nothing to brag about by the way. Has any woman ever called you "Mr. Perfect"?

It's a waste of time to read posts by mediocre and cerebral types such as yourself.


YOu know folks ..I totally missed this point in my first post to Outcast04/Conundrum04 or whatever they are going to call themselves the next time. This is my fault for being to focused on the nonsense that this particular poster tends twords on this site.

I feel the need to point this out to those of us who cannot seem to get off the treadmill so popular today of measuring or gaging ourselves by our sex or sexuality. It is just that I am prone to pointing this out on many sites here on ATS/BTS.

To define ones self by sex or sexuality as a mark of excellence..male or female is to me the very height of dumbassedness. People worthy of the name human are so much more than mere sexuality. Way...way much more.

The fingerprint of the absolute nonsense which is so often used here particularly by males ..though the females tend to do this quite differently but they do it none the less....is that the concept debated here of someone not being a "match in the bedroom" is not what sex and sexuality are supposed to be about. Yet in our me ..me...me.. charged social structure this is what passes for excellence ..when thinking people know better.
While I am not disposed to hanging out my sex/sexuality per se..I feel that this is a very important point to make in todays ...nonsense filled social structure of what passes for excellence.

We are not here to make love "at" our partners..we are here to make love "with" our partners. This is the point so often overlooked by the me....me..me types.
Pardon my crudity but this type of flatulence is just that ..flatulence and needs to be exposed for what it so often is..flatulence. We are so often surrounded by such flatulence daily that many of the me..me...me... types make the mistake of thinking this flatulence is normal and even excellence..it is not!!!! No way!!

Having a partner and making love with them is not just physical it is also spiritual. It is not competition..it is communication in many many direct as well as subtle indirect ways. It is not confined to the physical act itself.

My apologies to the mods who may be offended by this post but someone once again needs to say it. IF this nonsense is what passes for exellence among males/females today..we are in big trouble.

This...nonsense ...is one of the main reasons you so often see me making the point about what a dumb bunch of males there are out here.

It is my belief that the women out here know this more than the males but are, for some reason, hesitant to tell them. I will tell them and more males also need to do this....not tolerating this nonsense attempting to pass for excellence.

Orangetom



posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 09:08 PM
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Yes, women understand that sexuality is as much a spiritual act as it is a physical one. Those of us who try to explain it to the male population receive for our efforts, sighs, rolled eyes and guffaws of laughter. "Oh, you're a woman. You would say that!"

And WE'RE the pigs???????



posted on Jan, 26 2008 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by whitewave
Yes, women understand that sexuality is as much a spiritual act as it is a physical one. Those of us who try to explain it to the male population receive for our efforts, sighs, rolled eyes and guffaws of laughter. "Oh, you're a woman. You would say that!"

And WE'RE the pigs???????


That doesn't apply to everyone. The WHOLE problem is this: women try to make the rules >> PLAY FAIR

And ya'll can keeping coming in here all ya want pretending to be guys espousing the same bull, but most can see through that..lol



posted on Jan, 26 2008 @ 10:01 AM
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And WE'RE the pigs???????

Average American female is 35 lbs overweight!!!!!!

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