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reply posted on 20-12-2007 @ 03:55 PM by Areal51
reply to post by geemony


reply to post by FlyersFan


White pride and Black pride should indeed be classified in the same category. Personally, I'd vote and side with Human pride, if I were going to choose to be proud of any such type of thing.

However, where you both are wrong is equating White supremacy with Black pride. They are NOT the same, and they are not and should not be classified in the same category. There is taking pride in one's self, one's heritage, one's culture, the accomplishments of one's race, and then there is holding to the BELIEF that one's race is SUPERIOR to all other races. White supremacy by definition is a racist categorization. Understanding this, one would NOT equate Al Sharpton and Barack Obama as racist ideologues, both of whom promote positive imagery, self-imagery, self-esteem, and the educational and economic advancement of black people in the United States of America. They do not promote ideology that the Black race or the African-American race is superior to the White race or the European American race, or any other race.

On the other hand, Don Black was the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan from 1978 - 1987. The KKK Grand Wizard preceding him was former Republican Congressman, David Duke. Duke who at one time "...became famous on campus for wearing a Nazi uniform while picketing and holding parties on the anniversary of the birth of Adolf Hitler." The past two sentences should provide the necessary window to establish the difference between and ideology of pride and the ideologies of racism and supremacy. Now all one has to do is visit the Stormfront website to open the window to a wider and deeper view of hate, separatist ideologies, prejudice, racist propaganda, and anti-Semitic speech and thought. All of this done under the guise of love for the White race and the fear of genocide through racial integration. That is what both Don Black and David Duke support and advance.

The agendas of Al Sharpton and Barack Obama are fundamentally different than that of Don Black and David Duke. Sharpton and Obama promote integration and equality of all Americans of the United States. Black and Duke promote separation and inequality between the White race and all other races throughout the entire world. Those are the facts.

Though, Sharpton and Obama may occasionally speak out about atrocities against Black people throughout the world, both person's primary goals are to focus on the building and maintaining of a system that benefits all Americans of the United States. That each, both of whom are African-Americans, would have a focus and interest in the welfare of African-Americans should not come as a surprise to anyone who is aware of the history of African-Americans in the United States. The goals of Sharpton and Obama are set to raise the profile of African-Americans as well as the profile of European-Americans. It is, after all, the legacy of the United States that it has defeated many lopsided policies for the common good here at home and throughout the world.

What Black and Duke promote is separation and polarization throughout the entire world; what the two promote is not even a diametric opposite to what Sharpton and Obama promote. This should be clear by now -- but just in case it isn't, Sharpton and Obama would have to be advancing the superiority and separation of the Black Race from all other races throughout the entire world. Sharpton and Obama would have to support the Black version of Nazi fascism and neo-Nazi fascism as well. In order for Sharpton's and Obama's agenda to be the diametric opposite of Black's and Duke's those things would need to be true. However, they are not.

It is also appropriate to say that nothing in the manner of speech, policy, or credentials aligns Ron Paul with Don Black other than the fact that Paul is a White American. That his campaign has accepted funds from a White nationalist who supports White supremacy is not indicative of ideological kinship along the lines of separation, polarization, hate and fear. To do that the Ron Paul campaign would have had to refuse and return the donation to Don Black. If anything, the Ron Paul campaign's decision to keep the donation is indicative of the long standing tradition and policy of the United States to look out after its own. A tradition and policy that includes each and every citizen of the United States of America. There's nothing wrong with that.













[edit on 20-12-2007 by Areal51]


reply posted on 20-12-2007 @ 04:29 PM by FredT
Originally posted by Golack
Wow the $500 thing is an obvious smear by the MSM. I have a hard time understanding how moderators at a conspiracy site can help perpetuate the nonsense that it is.


Hmmm.... Just because I am a moderator on THE best conspiracy site the internet offers does not mean I am required to check my opinions, morals, ethics, and values at the door.

Mod Note: Moderators Are People Too – Please Review This Link.

If you think I will simply sit on my hands while you and the rest of the spin doctors try to make this out as some sort of pricipled constitutional stand you are in error.


I'm sure every candidate has had some donation from an extremist organization at one point. You don't see them handing it back.


Please show me where anyother candidate has not retured funds from neo nazi's? Please exclude David Duke however

Ron Paul's popularity is still on the rise no thanks to the MSM. Come vote day you all will be surprised.


Perhaps or perhaps we have jumped the shark here as well. You never know. The only thing I am surprised at is this insistance that there is nothing wrong with taking money from neo nazi's


reply posted on 20-12-2007 @ 04:39 PM by eagledriver
Originally posted by FredT

Ron Paul keeps white supremacist donation


news.yahoo.com
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul has received a $500 campaign donation from a white supremacist, and the Texas congressman doesn't plan to return it, an aide said Wednesday.

Don Black, of West Palm Beach, recently made the donation, according to campaign filings. He runs a Web site called Stormfront with the motto, "White Pride World Wide." The site welcomes postings to the "Stormfront White Nationalist Community."
(visit the link for the full news article)



Why is this considered news. It must have been a slow day on the news front. What about Hillary accepting 800K from the Chinese and keeping it when she is caught. That smells foul as a overflowing sewer, just like her campaign is turning out to be.


reply posted on 20-12-2007 @ 04:51 PM by etshrtslr
reply to post by Palasheea


If you own or run a business selling a product or service do you question everyone who buys your product or service about their individual political, religious, ethnic or racial beliefs before you sell to them?

I would say most if all do not.

Political campaigns are nothing more than selling an ideological product.

The people buying these product or services are the ones that believe in the product or service being sold and are willing to pay money for said product or service.

There are corporation around the world, who every day sell products or services to intolerant racist bigoted people who believe in all kinds of things that most of us would find intolerable. And most these same corporation would never condone or support these intolerances.

To expect anything less from our politicians in this day and age, although noble is in my opinion ideologically naive and unrealistic.

Change the system then we can stop these types of things from happening.



reply posted on 20-12-2007 @ 04:53 PM by mybigunit
reply to post by etshrtslr


I agree but for the simple fact that this is for the person who is going to run the free world and not some local shoe shop I think there needs to be consideration.


reply posted on 20-12-2007 @ 04:59 PM by Mephorium
Originally posted by promomag
Why not take a listen yourself to what Ron Paul says about the Donation:

www.youtube.com...



I think he defended himself well in this video and find it amusing what a controversy this donation is exaggerated to be. A single man, not an organization, donated five-hundred dollars to Ron Paul whose beliefs could be no more dissimilar. I agree with Dr. Paul that if he were to return the money then it would appear that he endorses Mr. Black's beliefs as the money may well already be spent and well invested.

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