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reply posted on 19-12-2007 @ 11:25 AM by kattraxx
www.rense.com/general62/sci.htm
The list of all the dead microbiologists...

I read somewhere (and I'll try to find it again and link it) that they were either working on, or already had developed genetically engineered viruses that can kill off a very particular subset of the population... for example, people with purple eyes, etc.

If I wanted better control over the population, I'd have to keep the uncomplaining masses to work in my factories and fields, etc., and figure out a way to get rid of those that don't want to be controlled in a way that wouldn't spread out of control and kill indiscriminately. How this subset of the population would be isolated with a genetically engineered virus is anybody's guess, but it's something to think about.



reply posted on 19-12-2007 @ 12:31 PM by jackinthebox
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They don't have to "pull it off." It's going to happen with or without their help. Human population has been artificially inflated and already has outstripped natural resources, hence the genetic modification of foods.

This is also why American are so fat. They eat food with minimal to no nutritional value, leaving them in a perpetual state of nagging hunger. The body is hungry, calling for nutrients, so the person feeds their stomach but not their body only half realizing why they are hungry. Yes, fat people are actually slowly starving to death.


reply posted on 19-12-2007 @ 01:13 PM by camain
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not a problem, more to a 3rd world nation, give up all your worldly belonging, and starve like they do.

Everything we have is because of the NWO, everything that we are is because they pull the strings in the background.

Cheers,

Camain


reply posted on 19-12-2007 @ 05:08 PM by Cypher
I'll admit that I'm not overly educated on this whole world population / NWO depopulation plan thing, so I don't have a particular point to make, other than adding some fuel for the conversation.

One thing I'd like to add is that there may not be a need for a depopulation plan.

According to Ben J Wattenberg, a scholar from the admittedly conservative,
American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research(AEI) the world's population will begin to slow in growth and eventually top out at about 8 billion or so. After which it will start to actually decline.

Back in 2003, Mr. Wattenberg wrote this article in which he stated:

Demographers have typically worked on the assumption that human population would level off by achieving a "Total Fertility Rate" of 2.1 children per woman. Why 2.1? Two parents have two children. Sooner or later the parents die and are "replaced" by their two children. (The .1 accounts for children who die before their own age of reproduction.) Were the projection substantially higher, the result would be wall-to-wall people. If substantially lower, before too long there would be no people at all. Either trend moves in a relatively rapid geometric progression. So 2.1 it was. Very nice, the base line of a symmetrical, perpetual, and ordered universe.


And, as you can see from this Wikipedia page the fertility rates of most industrialized countries have fallen well below the 2.1 rate needed to sustain current population. Furthermore, the fertility rates in unindustrialized nations while still high, have been trending downward as well. As evidenced in this 2001 article on population trends.

Fertility rates in less developed countries have dropped dramatically over the last 40 years and now average 3.6 children, compared with only 1.6 in more developed countries. In fact, there are already 21 less developed nations that have fertility rates below replacement level, including Mexico, China and Thailand. Several others' rates have fallen rapidly to near replacement level and continue to drop: Brazil, from 6.25 to 2.25; Turkey, from 6.9 to 2.2; Tunisia, from 7.2 to 2.3; Indonesia, from 5.6 to 2.7.


In fact, even the UN's own 2006 World Population Prospects (medium variant) show a marked decrease in the amount of population growth by 2050.

As I stated in my opening, I haven't fully researched world population, so there may very well be information that counters the assertions by Mr. Wattenberg and others. However their argument, at least on the surface, seems reasonable to me and I think one would do themselves well to take it into consideration before buying whole heartedly into a NWO depopulation plan.

-Cypher

P.S. I once heard a radio talk show host talking about global population, in regards to the environmentalist's calls for slowing growth or reducing population. He basically stated that liberals look at each new human life as a drain on the system, or "one more mouth to feed" while conservatives look at a new human life as possibly the next Einstein or the next Jonas Sulk. I don't know that I necessarily agree with the liberal/conservative aspect of this analogy, but I do think it might just have some small merit in describing the different mindsets of this argument. ...food for thought.


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reply posted on 19-12-2007 @ 09:35 PM by j_kalin
Originally posted by camain
I like it when people talk about depopulation. Think of it a different way. If you were part of the NWO, who do you need, and who do you not need?

Who do you need: an educated base that works to keep your life comfortable.

Who do you not need: an educated base with too much time on there hands.

While its important to have educated people around to work, produce, and invent, you don't want them to have to much time on there hands to actually THINK. This is where TV comes in, this is where internet, and other forms of mass entertainment.

On the other side: who is expendable: People that don't contribute to what you need, how you use it, or how to keep the masses entertained.

Who fits into this: 90% of Africa, the aboriginess, the south american indians, the middle asia countries, the poor in china and India.

Who is dying of by the thousands every day? I think I just stated it .

Bottom line people, we are in the NWO, we have been for sometime, once you realize this, realise what your part is in it, then you can move on with life and recognize when your being given orders.

How many of you want to give up the TV, the internet? How many of you want to starve? cause not being a part of the NWO is exactly that.

Cheers,

Camain


I agree with this. The NWO, such as it is, is our current system. We work for the benefit of nonliving corporations that don't give a s*&t about our earth, our spirits, our dreams, or anything except making the absolutely highest profit on whatever widget they are selling. How do they keep you controlled? As Michael Moore observed in "Sicko", they do it with fear...

If you are afraid of losing your health insurance, you do what the boss tells you,

If you are afraid of terrorism, you do what you corporation-appointed president tells you,

If you are afraid of losing your 2 or even 3 jobs you need to work just to pay for necessities, you do what you are told,

If that doesn't seem sufficient, then they pump you full of so-called news like on Fox which consists of searching for Natalie Holloway or the intimate details of Anna Nicole Smith's death rather than the real news which is suppressed.

Yeah, you are working for the NWO right now...



reply posted on 19-12-2007 @ 09:53 PM by ralph nader
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we can desalinate the oceans if we have too.we have lots of water too drink thats not the problem,I wish people would stop worrying about water,if we run out of fresh water,people can migrate towrds the oceans,which wont be too far away,due too all the global warming and such,the rising oceans should be easily accesilbe to most people.I can get a hand held waterpumping filter for a hundred bucks and filter any water,even salt water.We have the technology now, so the oceans will be our future water source.

I think the reason for any power group to consider population control,is really all about control.The elite ,whom ever they may be,have all the power now,they always have.they want nothing less than the entire planet for themselves ,and they're offspring,ensuring a never ending reign, over a smaller mass of unknowing slaves.The planet will recover from all the damage we have caused,and the powers to be, will live in an utter utopia.
This is im sure theyre vision.
I believe a massive pandemic on a world wide scale will be the way they will achieve this goal of population control.This will ensure all cities and infastructure remain intact.
Everyone seems to know its coming,the media is constantly running stories on superbugs,and future pandemics,cnn,nbc,msnbc,cbs,etc.Hollywood ,28 days later,virus,and now with i am legend,what a joke, the whole concept is right there on the big screen but nobody cares.its just entertainment right?
we see it in the bird flu and mad cow,both probably started by mans actions ,such as over antiboiotics on chicken and cow farms,therefore creating even more resitant and lethal viruses.If you get a chance, watch a documentary called "the beginning of aids",its very eye opening,to the infancy of vaccination creation and how they were, and still are derived.the irradication of one virus can sometimes create even more lethal and dangerous virus.The future virus will makes aids look tame in comparison.whatever it will be,if its manmade,im sure all the elite and they're families have been innocculated ahead of time.
But we all know, nature has a way of wreaking havok on any of mans most well laid plans.
just my thoughts.
peace.


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reply posted on 19-12-2007 @ 10:41 PM by pc is here
Originally posted by camain
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not a problem, more to a 3rd world nation, give up all your worldly belonging, and starve like they do.

Everything we have is because of the NWO, everything that we are is because they pull the strings in the background.

Cheers,

Camain


They don't pull my strings. They can kiss my ***. --------------PC


reply posted on 19-12-2007 @ 10:53 PM by jackinthebox
If the NWO intends to deliberately wipe out the bulk of human population on Earth, I certainly believe that it is technologically feaseable and within their means.

As I said before though, I think they are just planning to manage an inevitable population crash.

I'm gonna share a little story I heard back in college, but I can't remember the specific details for sure so please don't nitpick. The general point of the story remains the same. This is how a population crash occurs.

Teddy Roosevelt liked to hunt game in Yellowstone. It may have been moose in particular, so let's just say that's what it was. The only problem was, that the wolves were getting their fair share and leaving little for the hunters. So the President decided to call it open-season on the wolves. Within a year or two there were plenty of moose, too many in fact. They now overpopulated the area, and could no longer be sustained by the environment. They did not start do die off, or die off slowly to adjust to their environment. They all died suddenly. There were not enough resources to sustain them all, but they each took a small share, and therefore there were not enough resources for even some to survive. If a few had been able to horde away resources, they would have been the only ones to survive.

The NWO is hording the resources. Everything is funneling right into their pockets. They may be speeding up the process even, to let the masses work even more furiously to complete their master plan, but I think they are simply capitalising on the inevitable.



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reply posted on 20-12-2007 @ 12:05 AM by Merle8
I don't really get the population control thing either. It's not gonna be some huge disaster. It's more convenient and manageable to control the population through built in probabilities arising from the system. I see things like the two income trap (why the **** don't economists and politicians try and end this, it would fix all our problems and bring back family values, satisfying liberals and conservatives), birth control (the best invention ever), and the fetish for materialism as the most effective population control. Imagine for example a college educated yuppie couple. They both work full time. They both desire expensive stuff, sometimes going beyond their means to get it. And neither wants to have a kid until they're burnt out on materialism and the rat race (they don't know this consciously). So they keep getting deeper into debt and deeper into their careers and eventually reproducing gets shoved by the wayside. The "NWO" has just succeeded on two fronts. They created a system that makes useful, educated, high achieving professionals to do their bidding, AND they have programmed in that the only acceptable type of kid for these people, if they do go out of their way to have one, is a carbon copy of themselves. There you go, in a nutshell, NWO population control. These people are in effect slaves, but these are the higher tier of slaves, the "house 'n-word's" if you will. It is basically the same to control poor people.

Poor people strive so hard just to get by (not to mention are driven crazy by the materialism fetish NWO media plants in their heads, that they can't fulfill) that to have a kid would be the worst financial decision they would have to make. If they do have a kid, they're poorer and the kid has a very hard time succeeding in life, and even if they do succeed, they will probably just become a yuppie. Bam. NWO population control.

My point being, the NWO system is so pervasive that it's almost, keyword, almost, impossible to live outside it. That's why I give props to the following groups, the Amish/Quakers/Pennsylvania Dutch/Mennonites, crazy survivalists that generate their own power, that Danish hippy commune that sustains itself selling weed, and any tribal people that don't ask for handouts. These people, while powerless to stop the NWO if push comes to shove, could weasel their way out of NWO control when the whole thing eventually comes crashing down.
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