2012 A Spiritual Transformation This Is The Time Now, page 3

reply to post by 2PacSade

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Greetings 2PacSade,

The Mayans in the early stages of there civilization were given Galactic Information at the very beginning and the 2012 has been always an encoded number .

Look at this number as a wake up call .

No matter what your view is of the World all know of the number 2012 as a year but its more then a year or just another number on your Earty based calendars.

We are not just here to enlightened you about 2012 but to assist you in becoming aware of the Spiritual beings that you truly are and to understand that MotherEarth will be renewed on a Cosmic level unseen within your time and space.

Again there is no doom nor gloom there are going to be certian ajustments or atunements happening as you near 2012 just like to go to a doctor for a checkup .

The Planet is in for a Galactic Ajustment which will allow the Planet to vibrate at a higher speed .

Blessings In the Light of The Most Radiant One Always,
CmdrAleon

reply to post by XL5

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Greetings XL5,

The first thing to do is stop using the word Alien which is created by your Media and Hollywood itself.

There are People from other Worlds and I would suggest as I have in some of my replies to not just sit a meditate but use certian music artists I would suggest that can help put you within a higher frequency are Michael Hammers meditation music Aeoliah music these artists have created higher frequency music that will assist you in resonating into the frequency needed to go within and make direct contact happen with what I call the Christ Consciousness this is key .Again Intention and focus.

Blessings In The Light of The Most Radiant One Always,
CmdrAleon

reply to post by SonicInfinity

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Don't you see? This is not about proof. What you want him to do? Show a copy of his starship ticket?
It's about belief and intuition. Many people seem to feel it and respond to it. You don't like, or understand it? Noone is forcing you to view this thread.

edit; I must say that this thread should be in Skunk Works though.

[edit on 19-12-2007 by enigmania]

reply to post by SonicInfinity

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If that it's exactly what you think, why you wrote that here instead to send that as a complain to the staff?
Posting things like that on a midlle of a topic just makes you a kind of troll with just one intent: Create havoc and chaos!
omg...

Cmdraleon:
I would be very thankfull if you could answer to me brother, thx

[edit on 19/12/07 by Umbra Sideralis]

reply to post by XL5

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Like 3 dreams 3 nights in a row about contact

OK, not only have I had that happen to me when I was very young, the dreams were very complex, fantastical and symbolic in ways I remember but still don't fully understand, and so vivid as to feel completely realistic. I have not told the full story of those dreams to anyone outside of close friends, but they were definitely more than your average dream. I don't claim to know exactly how much more. Here's my post about it, which was some time ago:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Odd thing about this thread to me... there was another similar thread to this one by an OP who claimed to be from Venus. In another dream, with a similar feeling that didn't repeat and also happened when I was an adult, I spoke with a very convincing extraterrestrial who told me that Mars was inhabited more like earth in the past and that the "people" who came to our solar system to colonize originally considered Mars and Earth, and she said "no one wanted to live on Venus". Here are the details of that one:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

OK, so I know these were dreams, and while I try to learn from my dreams, I consider their translation into meaning in the real world more as educational process helping understanding and creativity. At the same time, I mentioned the conflict with my "information" on the Venus thread, a thread which seemed to attract a big following, with debunkers being few and far between. Now this OP comes up with a Mars thread with the difference being that no one seems to go along with it, all debunkers, no followers. Opposite of the Venus thread I saw. Don't know about the truth of the OP's story, but it isn't in conflict with a pretty incredible and realistic dream that I've had, one of a handful of very interesting ones.

Originally posted by enigmania
reply to post by SonicInfinity

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Don't you see? This is not about proof. What you want him to do? Show a copy of his starship ticket?
It's about belief and intuition. Many people seem to feel it and respond to it. You don't like, or understand it? Noone is forcing you to view this thread.

edit; I must say that this thread should be in Skunk Works though.
[edit on 19-12-2007 by enigmania]

Well put.

With respect to our visitor, we are not showing our best traits here.

Again, true or not, asking for proof is proof one does not understand the science. Proof is self evident. Our visitor here is offering insight. I would listen on the chance that there are actually others who give a care we would exist through our "ignorant" stage as a semi-intelligent species.

I cant but imagine a time where someone like Jesus would walk the world to teach love, yet was pelted with demands for miracles by the shallow and fearful. We have not changed much in two thousand years.

I would listen and "judge not" or suffer the danger of missing some points. Even if our thread host is not an extraterrestrial, what is being relayed is, to some of us, not outside our awareness of possibilities.

I as many others have experienced conscious states that expose the rarefied sub-reality we all are experiencing. It is quite horrifying at first, but you find that everything we know is but a thin strata in an infinite ocean. In most cases if we are not either very open, or very informed and have some mental facility for turning off the filters our fear process the world with, with regard to our perceptions of reality, we can go mad in a loop of fear states. Some neruochemical states that open one to this wider field are born by accident or inherited like a genetic malady. Then we have schizophrenics and other mental dis-eases.

We can experience these states with shifts of our neuralchemistry by meditation, sacrament as in sacred use of naturally occuring plants and organisms like Ayuasca, LSD, Psilocybe, Mescaline, or strict dietary and mental control. NDE, by accident, poisoning or life threatening events can also give access to the wider experiences beyond what we call reality.

What our host is telling us, simply, is that a change due us here will thrust us into a higher (broader) state of awareness. We will become aware of things we could not perceive until then. Things here all along. Those worlds and people now passed we knew who died (lower energy states), those from other worlds (higher or different energetic states), those from here we never saw except seen by those here and in our history we called crazy, mythologists or prophets, (co-spacial organisms and worlds just out of our frequency range like fairies, nature spirits, elementals).

If you are not open and able to let go your current description of reality, you might not have a good day. There are, or will be those who will help us. Those of us who have ventured out and returned intact and richer in wisdom will be here to help. Others will be ready to go on ahead.

There are then others from outside our descriptions that are here because they are compassionate and wish us to successfully evolve. Some from other worlds in this reality, some from other worlds without. Who is to say? Because it is good and serves the spirit to help your neighbors, no matter if they are less intelligent than you or not. Don't you share such values?

I myself have seen enough to know I would be less than intelligent to question everything not fitting my description of my safe zone of reality. I went well beyond and found I was quite uninformed and proprietary. I grew up fast as many others also did. So I shut my mouth and opened my mind. I recommend that all should listen carefully and ask some intelligent questions first before getting a boner about being some judge of authority and demanding proof. I know it makes us feel more in control of our fears to do such things, but not in reality. It just keeps us from growing. It actually turns off awareness.

So appologies for such fear. We have been through some dark times.

To our host, I would ask, how will this change happen? Is it a resonant emission that even other worlds will feel, like a tuning note from the galactic center of the super massive black hole (the engine for this galactic structure), who could be a super sentient?

Or is this a local effect, more like a veil is lifted from our planet?

ZG

I will ask more questions, but for now I will wait for this.

And to the group. It might be time for a new classification rather than one bucket (Skunk Works) to throw everything in question into. How about, Communications from Outside? If we are to think this type of thread could actually be true, why not make a bucket for that? Those who abuse will soon be exposed. Many here are not as stupid as we think.

reply to post by Cmdraleon

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Cmdraleon,

What you are saying all makes sense to people that understand the topic, but i'm calling a hoax. I'm not a non believer, i've just researched the topic enough to know that you are just spitting well know clutter out in an esoteric fashion.

You sound like you are interesting, but we all know it's fairly easy to write creatively.

Simple question, if you are such a heightened being with knowledge of our world, why start a thread on ATS. Wouldn't you do it my telepathy?

reply to post by Nohup

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Here, here. It should be moved to skunkworks. It's great reading so far, bit that's about it.

Originally posted by dingleberry77
reply to post by Cmdraleon

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Cmdraleon,

What you are saying all makes sense to people that understand the topic, but i'm calling a hoax. I'm not a non believer, i've just researched the topic enough to know that you are just spitting well know clutter out in an esoteric fashion.

You sound like you are interesting, but we all know it's fairly easy to write creatively.

Simple question, if you are such a heightened being with knowledge of our world, why start a thread on ATS. Wouldn't you do it my telepathy?

Dingleberry, you just stole the last words right out of my mouth. I want him to feel comfortable without feeling attacked but some verifiable proof of something would be a good start to keep listening.

Can any of us prove that any proof would prove we could believe? I bet if you got proof personally, you would not believe it. You might, as I did when I got proof of such bigger realities that I went into a fear state (Ontological Shock) that about drove me mad. I finally woke up. But I was even more stupid than those asking for proof. It took a while. Relax. I have proof we will understand, when we wake up, but not before.

The mode implied that ATS is not a preferred place to communicate is interesting. Where would be the place? How would you know? Do you know a of better place? Maybe we all ATS stupids aint woith jabberin too?

I disagree. Sometimes it is one person who would make all the difference, and that one person in the group who gets the message can awaken the rest. Until then, the intuition will guide the message in paths we cannot possibly see in linear modes. I don't see a problem with ATS getting extraterrestrial conversations.

We need to stop trying to defend ourselves from everything. Like too many antibiotics, we will die from the cure.

ZG

Originally posted by dingleberry77
reply to post by Cmdraleon

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Cmdraleon,

What you are saying all makes sense to people that understand the topic, but i'm calling a hoax. I'm not a non believer, i've just researched the topic enough to know that you are just spitting well know clutter out in an esoteric fashion.

You sound like you are interesting, but we all know it's fairly easy to write creatively.

Simple question, if you are such a heightened being with knowledge of our world, why start a thread on ATS. Wouldn't you do it my telepathy?

Hi all
this is my first post
just thought I'd share this with you

I did a little digging and as you can see hes been a busy boy


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www.ufoseek.com...
www.meetup.com...
profiles.aim.com...
www.dailyom.com...
uk.youtube.com...
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www.angelfire.com...
blog.myspace.com...



anyway I have to agree with you there dingleberry77
smells like a hoax

like that kid the other week that said he came from a twin earth on the opposite of the sun

sounds abit like some kind of cult to me
no offence intended

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