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Originally posted by dk3000
Who cares what society thinks. What do you think is the question.
Originally posted by ahuman
reply to post by Seiju
If evil and good didn't exist, we wouldn't be discussing those 2 things. Use common-sense. You're not dumb. Deny ignorance. Only ignorant & evil people would claim that good and evil do not exist. [/quote
Thats the whole point of this thread. Maybe good and evil dont exist and weve all been blinded by the fact that all of us think there is.
They're all just labels
Originally posted by Nohup
And regardless what I personally think about actions being good or evil, I recognize that I pretty much have to conform to what the majority of people think, or they have a societal right to judge me and potentially kill me.
You can ofcourse force your will upon another person.
Originally posted by deathpoet69
ok well let everyone do what they want.
Originally posted by bsbray11
What a pitiful way to perceive your world. What would you do to warrant being executed, that it's on your mind?
Originally posted by Choronzon
Living creatures have free will to pursue life, liberty and happiness.
Any attempt by another creature to prevent that from occuring defines the nature of 'evil'.
Originally posted by Roland Deschain
I tend to agree with those who say good and evil is just a perception. What's evil to one individual could be the greatest of all goods and vice versa. However I think there is a fine line drawn in the sand...somewhere.
Originally posted by gkgoten100
reply to post by Seiju
I will have to agree with you on that.
IMO nothing was ever good or evil until religion had come along.
Also, before evil refered to intentional behavior, which does harm, is dishonest, or fails to honor agreements. If what you were refering to was evil in ethics.
Originally posted by cheeser
as ive said in another thread..
"good and evil" doesn't exist imo, we are survivalist machines trying to perpetuate our genes. don't be propagated by hollywood and harry potter (and definitely some religions).
so fundamentally i see this discussion as flawed.
Bekoff was able to show--after at least a decade of painstaking observation and analysis--that canine play is actually a complex social interaction in which the participants constantly signal their intentions and check to make sure their behavior is correctly interpreted. Dogs that cheat--promising a playful bite but delivering a harsh one, for example--tend to be ostracized.
possess not just raw emotions but also subtler and more sophisticated mental states, including envy, empathy, altruism and a sense of fairness. "They have the ingredients we use for morality," says Frans de Waal, a professor of primate behavior at Emory University in Atlanta, referring to the monkeys and chimps he studies.
Thank you very much. I was waiting for the reply of people are just taught to believe "good" or "bad" from birth and their bodies conditioned to that response. Of course that is a ridiculous theory and can be proven so easily.
Originally posted by GirlNextDoor
reply to post by shug7272
Excellent reply. You said what I wanted to say, only you said it better.
Relativism is a lie. People would rather believe the lie than accept that there are universal truths because believing the lie requires no change on their part. If all is relative, then you can do whatever you want, without consequence or guilt. But when you get right down to it, relativism will only get you so far. Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. You must test it. If you jump off a building believing you can fly, you'll still fall to the ground.
[edit on 12/19/07 by GirlNextDoor]