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Ufo Cover-up within the community part.2

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posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by internos
Hi PartChimp: i was wondering the same

but maybe, a possible explanation is that the photo in question is related to
www.projetovega-ufo.com.br...
but i could be wrong, of course...


Sure it could be, but it's still suspect. I have no doubt that the author's explanation will match your possible explanation, though.




posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 08:56 AM
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This is mad. People have all this information about the various alien races - their likes/dislikes, their motives, their allies, their fashion sense, their gadgets, but the only picture is a blurry smudge behind some plants? It doesn't make any sense at all. Want to blow the cover off this whole alien thing? Release every bit of evidence you can to skeptics. They'll want to get to the bottom of this as much as you, and if you can convince skeptics, you'll convince everyone. Peer-review, and skeptics, are your friends!



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 09:02 AM
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I see that you did not understand the textile expert´s explanation. The fabric was not burned nor scorched, it was something that he cannot explain. Besides, the person that did the research is Linda Moulton Howe, she is a well respected investigator. You are entitled to think and believe what you like but cannot dismiss the what it is said in the video. There are so many ridiculous abduction scenarios that people tend to take as real that I am not surprised by you reaction to this one. Oh, I am not Urandir.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 09:04 AM
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This photo has nothing to do with Projeto Vega, it was taken by a friend of mine who was right beside me at the encounter. I have never heard of such project...



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by felipecb
This photo has nothing to do with Projeto Vega, it was taken by a friend of mine who was right beside me at the encounter. I have never heard of such project...


This is probably because this "photo" is a project. You know, like a photoshop project?

Could you please tell me how the "alien" relayed this information that you garnered from it?



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by felipecb
reply to post by PartChimp
 


This photo has nothing to do with Projeto Vega, it was taken by a friend of mine who was right beside me at the encounter. I have never heard of such project...

That was my guess in order to provide a possible explanation to the unusual file name, but since you stated that you don't know it, that was a wrong guess

I thought it was related because if you google "Laquim" the second result is Projecto Vega, a brazilian website that talks about an alien race called Laquim (and other ones):

a coincidence, no problem.

And what about my questions? The pic you linked, if it's digital, is NOT the original one:
is the original available? And is there any article about that photo in the website in which the photo is hosted? And if not, why?
These are pretty standard requests here, so please don't take them as a sign of distrust.



[edit on 19/12/2007 by internos]



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by felipecb
... the person that did the research is Linda Moulton Howe, she is a well respected investigator. You are entitled to think and believe what you like but cannot dismiss the what it is said in the video.


No kidding; I think you're under-estimating the collective ATS knowledge. You'll find we're aware of the people, and the events.



There are so many ridiculous abduction scenarios that people tend to take as real that I am not surprised by you reaction to this one. Oh, I am not Urandir.


Your grasp of english, or lack-of, missed my point entirely; those questions are those I would of asked Urandir..

In any case, have you ever met anyone in that video in person?
Have you any other information to publish and prove your "hard evidence"?



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 12:04 PM
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Tell you what is strange though, since this alien is in communication with the OP and his friends, surely the "alien" would want its pic taken so the word can been spread amongst the world?

But no.... we get get a blurry image that quite frankly looks nothing like something from out of this world, just leaves/branches and blotches done with photoshop, or something worse. And then an even more ludicrous claim that the alien floats so no tracks can be analyzed. Its a proper get out clause and its disgusting.

The OP should be ashamed of themselves. He/she bangs on about certain events being covered up by ufologists, including his/her BS story.

The OP is the reason why ufology is generally mocked by the world.

Just another attention seeking wannabe



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 12:29 PM
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LOL LOL Please no part 3.This has to be one of the worst pictures i have seen posted on here.My iggy bin is getting full, but there is room for you.lol goodbye



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 01:13 PM
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Yes, I and other fellow researchers have had several contacts with this ET. He is about 1,30m tall having long arms. He always wears a jumpsuit that appears to be luminescent, like a neon light. He usually have a small sphere on his hand that is some kind of gadget that he uses to teletransport or move through the jungle, gliding like a ghost...he seems that he is able to shift from our dimension to a slightly higher one and then move around without any hindrance from the enviroment. He looks like someone from the negro race, but his eyes are like the one of a cat. He speaks in portuguese but his voice do not sound "natural". Sometimes it is difficult to figure out what he is talking about. We feel a strange pressure on our chest when we are near him (I say we, because my friends also feel the same pressure). The ET says it is because of the difference between our bodies vibrational frequencies. He says he is from a slightly higher octave of the 3rd dimension, thus their bdies has a stronger energy signature than ours. That is his explanation for the chest pressure. He says his ET group comes from the Pegasus system and that they have underground bases on Earth and other planets as well.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 01:24 PM
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You are entitled to your opinion, but it is your opinion only. I seek no attention nor do I make money from this. You may disagree with what I am saying, but do not call me a lier for you do not know me. By stating that my photo is a photoshop work says it all. You have no technical knowledge about image manipulation whatsoever. And you have no ideia about the possibilities of ET contact. They have no pattern, no "right" contact, abduction or sighting description. If you seek the truth on this subject, if that is what you are looking for here, open you mind and please, do not bother with my account.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by felipecb
reply to post by GeeGee
 


Yes, I and other fellow researchers have had several contacts with this ET.
So why not take a camera and take a quality photo of him then? Even £30 phones takes better pics than that and you could take one without making it obvious either.

I cant wait for your excuse as to why you cant do that.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 02:51 PM
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It is hosted there because the site belongs to a friend, I believe there is a small description of the ET there. I do not have the original for it was not I who took the picture, but soeone who was beside me at that particular encounter. It was not taken by a digital camera, it was a 35mm slr. The photo was taken more than 7 years ago. I believe there is a way to determine if it is a fake manipulation with this photo.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 02:59 PM
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I believe I am not expressing myself correctly. This photo was taken more than 7 years ago, it was not a fancy camera. We were in the middle of the jungle, following this ET through the jungle, as I said he was utilizing some kind of technology to glide through the trees and thus seeming "etherial" and out of focus whilst he was moving, abruptly my colleague managed to snap a single photo when he stopped and suddenly disappeared. That is it! If you do not believe me that is fine, but do not insult my intelligence with ludicrous assumptions. As I said, I am not here to waist mine nor anyone´s time with B. S. , I am just sharing my experience and point of view about the phenomena. Have a good day/night.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 03:04 PM
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reply to post by PartChimp
 


It has nothing to do with any photoshop project whatsoever. I was there and I saw the ET... I and some colleagues had several other encounters with this ET. As I said in a previous post, he spoke portuguese, though with an unnatural voice.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 03:18 PM
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The photo was taken more than 7 years ago, not by a digital camera, it was a simple 35mm camera. I have seen this photo in many other sites all over the world saying all sorts of different things about it. The interaction with this particular "Laquim" race has been going on in Brazil for more than 10 years. I have done research here and found out that at least 100+ persons have had interaction with these guys. I had about 20 encounters with this ET. Never alone. Alwyas with fellow researchers. Unfortunatly, one "contact partner" is reluctant to come out and talk about his interaction with this ET( for obvious reasons), he also conversed with him. He is a prominent Geneticist from the USA, a Phd professor from an Ivy League University. His account whould make all the difference. Thank you for your interest. My goal here is to give a small glimpse of the ET interaction scenario outside the "mainstream" ufology. There are fascinating, positive interaction going on...



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 03:27 PM
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I apolgize for any misunderstanding. I spent 12 days with Linda Howe at the abduction site. I am new to this forum and it is an anonymous one, so it is difficult to acertain the level of awareness about the phenomena of the people involved. You see, in my point of view there are no "experts" on the subject for the phenomena is diverse and complex in its manifestation.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 07:05 PM
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This is possibly a real case... but OP, if you know this is real, why get offended by people who don't believe you?

I've experienced stuff, and I have had very little to zero proof at all. The fact is that for some reason, which I can only strongly speculate has something to do with the government, these unknown races want ineractions with humans to be as sterile as possible. Most likely for the safety of both us and them.

This goes to show how clever humans really are, if some of these photos of alleged beings are real, because we would then have quite obviously undermined their policy of sterile contacts... but I'm sure they don't worry much about the slight evidence that does slip by, because like this thread shows, any slight evidence is basically no evidence at all. The only evidence most people are gunna buy is a face to face encounter.

This could be real, could be fake, but who cares, OP? It's your experience. Do you not understand how this just doesn't fit into the current paradigm? It can and will be proven fake, if the people's will is not to believe. So my advice to people who are trying to give what little proof there is of aliens and saucers and whateverthehellyouwannadealwith... just don't waste your time.

My advice to you if you keep researching and do stumble upon undeniable evidence... just watch yourself, man. You can't trust anyone except yourself with the goods.

I have no reason not to believe you. That picture, I looked at it close, and it does appear to be either something that is alive, a very good CGI, or a man in a suit transposed very effectively onto a forested background. Linda Moulton Howe turned her head... so maybe there's something to it... or maybe this is just a promotion for Linda Moulton Howe.... Do you see why nobody is gunna just blindly believe this?

There's just too many risk factors in stating support for either side of the case, because A) people have good reason to be skeptical, but also B) real contacts do happen

Unfortunately, money/attention grubbers have ruined most hope of this subject being honestly brought to light by anyone short of the govt or the aliens themselves.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 07:30 PM
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reply to post by PartChimp
 


I had several encounters with the Laquim, on the ocasion of the photo he was sort of departing from the contact and we followed him then we took the picture before he vanished in the air. The file name in portuguese does not mean at all that it is a photoshop project, it is an assumption that does not make any sense. We call projeto (project) the farm where these ETs manifest



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by felipecb


Very interesting, 1.30m is small. Most people who claim to have contact with ET's claim they speak telepathically, but I guess it depends. Is this Laquim race have anything to do with the Brazilian country, as in they took part in creating it?

[edit on 19-12-2007 by GeeGee]



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