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Scientists Confirm Faster than light travel is actually possible

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posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 02:58 AM
reply to post by edventia

Why wouldn't you run into anything? Does the craft not intersect with the known universe? If it works by manipulation of gravity to expand and contract space around the ship, it should still be affected by other masses, especially those with gravity. I don't know how familiar you are with Star Wars, but the technology theoretically relates. They have cutoffs just to prevent such collosions, so when an object and/or gravity well is scanned they drop into real space. As for space pirates, there is a gravity well projector used to pull in ships from hyperspace. If this works by gravity, maybe larger sources would do that. Either way, space pirates would be a problem. In real life that stinks, but that makes your sci fi interesting!

posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 05:53 AM

Originally posted by mrwupy
I'm still on the side that anything we can conceive, we will eventually achieve.

Newtons laws said man cannot fly, 104 years ago today the wright brothers flew. They didn't prove Newton wrong, they just discovered a different set of laws, the laws of aerodynamics.

Newton's laws said no such thing.

In fact even Bernoulli (there were multiple Bernoulli's) was a contemporary of Isaac Newton, and his physical discoveries explain aerodynamics. And they are completely compatible with Newton's laws.

There was no law of physics stopping powered flight in 1900, and all scientists knew so.

The reason that powered flight was developed then was because of the invention of the internal combustion engine and development of petroleum. Only then was an engine simultaneously light and powerful enough. The critical invention of the Wright brothers was understanding and development of control systems for dynamical stability.

posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 03:33 PM
The distances of other planets and galaxies have always fallen under my suspicion, there must be exaggerations in the distances of these cosmological bodies. Alpha Centauri can't be 2.5633 x 10^13 miles (4.37 light years) away for it to be seen with an unaided eye on a clear night, Alpha Centauri should be much closer than that otherwise it won't show up even in the vacuum of space. And how could you employ the Universe to contract in front of a spacecraft and expand behind it in order to travel beyond the speed of light? Of course you can throw in any value in a physical equation and it will just give you the answer but how could you practically achieve "warp" speed?

posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 03:52 PM
Here's something I wrote in another thread on the same topic...

Scientists Challenge Einstein's Theory! Faster Than Light Travel Possible!

In 1905, Einstein established the Theory of Special Relativity that has defined space and time for a century. Scientists and researchers have been unable to definitively find anything wrong with it.

Now they have!

One scientist has even pointed that quotations from the 1905 document and Einstein’s contemporaries as well as interpretations of the Relativity equations clearly and concisely describe a confused and obviously erroneous theory. Every year millions of students are taught this theory without a critical analysis of Relativity.

So what exactly is this theory of Special Relativity? And what is the confusion all about? For starters, the special theory of relativity, deals with the relative motions of objects and describes the motion of particles moving at close to the speed of light.

Theoretical Basis for Special Relativity

Einstein's theory of special relativity results from two statements -- the two basic postulates of special relativity:

> The speed of light is the same for all observers, no matter what their relative speeds.

It will be seen to be the same relative to any observer, independent of the motion of the observer -- is the crucial idea that led Einstein to formulate his theory. It means we can define a quantity c, the speed of light, which is a fundamental constant of nature.

> The laws of physics are the same in any inertial (that is, non-accelerated) frame of reference.

This means that the laws of physics observed by a hypothetical observer traveling with a relativistic particle must be the same as those observed by an observer who is stationary in the laboratory.

Peculiar Relativistic Effects

Time dilation – the time lapse between two events does not vary from one observer to another, but is dependent on the relative speeds of the observers' reference frames. For e.g., the twin paradox, where a twin who in a spaceship traveling near the speed of light, returns to find his sibling has aged much more.

Relativity of simultaneity – two events happening in two different locations that occur simultaneously to one observer, may occur at different times to another observer.

Lorentz contraction – the dimensions of an object as measured by one observer may be smaller than the results of measurements of the same object made by another observer.

Composition of velocities – velocities (and speeds) do not simply 'add', for example if a rocket is moving at ⅔ the speed of light relative to an observer, and the rocket fires a bullet at ⅔ of the speed of light relative to the rocket, the bullet does not exceed the speed of light relative to the observer.

Inertia and momentum – as an object's speed approaches the speed of light from an observer's point of view, its mass appears to increase thereby making it more and more difficult to accelerate it from within the observer's frame of reference.

Equivalence of mass and energy, E = mc2 – The energy content of an object at rest with mass m equals mc2.

Special relativity reveals that c is not just the velocity of a certain phenomenon, namely the propagation of electromagnetic radiation (light)—but rather a fundamental feature of the way space and time are unified as spacetime. A consequence of this is that it is impossible for any particle that has mass to be accelerated to the speed of light.

Fallacy Of The Theory Of Special Relativity

Having said that, take a look at the fallacy of the above effects. The diagram shows the approach to the CICS. Click on the link below to view the details in each box:

The Relativity Challenge.

In a nut shell:

There are several implications associated with the model of Complete and Incomplete Coordinate System (CICS). Some of these are listed here:

1. The speed of light is not a theoretical speed limit.
2. The speed of light is constant, but can vary by coordinate system.
3. This model applies to all types of waves.
4. Special Relativity is invalid because it fails Einstein's requirements.
5. The twin paradox goes away.
6. Length contraction does not occur.

So does that mean FTL travel is not only possible, but a fact? The implications are mind boggling! For the science buffs who understand mathematics here’s a paper written in April 2008 by Dr JH Field available in the Los Alamos National Lab archives here:

A detailed re-examination of the seminal paper on special relativity, taking into account recent work on the physical interpretation of the space-time Lorentz transformation as well as the modern understanding of classical elecromagnetism as a certain limit of the fundamental underlying theory --quantum electrodynamics-- is presented.

Many errors both of physical principle and of a mathematical nature are uncovered. The `relativity of simultaneity' and `length contraction' effects predicted in the paper are shown to be the spurious consequences of misinterpretations of the second postulate and the Lorentz transformation, respectively. The derivation of the latter in the paper is shown to be flawed.

The physics of space and time II: A reassessment of Einstein's 1905 special relativity paper.

FTL travel a possibility?



posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 04:06 PM

Originally posted by mrwupy
I'm still on the side that anything we can conceive, we will eventually achieve.

Newtons laws said man cannot fly, 104 years ago today the wright brothers flew. They didn't prove Newton wrong, they just discovered a different set of laws, the laws of aerodynamics. We still have plenty to learn and eventually, we'll zip thru the universe like it's our own hometown.

Scary, ain't it

edit: nevermind

[edit on 23-10-2008 by science lol]

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