I have a few words about Mr. Paul

reply to post by aravoth


Oooppss!!!
I liked your post!! My response was to SouthernBelle82..and I dont know where in the south SouthernBelle82 is from..but it sure is not my southern town!! LOL
Sry..and I agree with you (obviously)...re:socialism.

Ron Paul will win if it is Gods will..no matter what B.S. the corrupters try to run. God still is in control....

I was getting a little angry while checking out the past 20 pages of this thread.

SB was acting like a royal twat to everyone who didn't follow her views (I even hope she reads this reply! If she isn't banned already). She had the audacity to label others as "hypocrites", however she can't take what she dishes out and that's lame.

I don't care who you are, you need to learn to respect the views of others whether or not you agree with them. In real life, you could start a fight. On the net, with enough warnings from other users, you'll get the boot. Either way, justice will be served eventually.

The army vet in here kicked some serious ass, btw. I respect him for putting it down well and at least trying to relate to the "troll" in a few ways. But of course, it doesn't always work obviously. Good job, guys, keep on going!

This is my favorite presidential election Poll heheheheh
truthmason.com...
Ron Paul 96%

thats how it should be.
btw- this is my comment on the poll site

TextRon Paul is the first and only political candidate I would support. Ever. I support Ron Paul for president. Failing that, I support the violent overthrow of what passes for U.S. government these days.

Ron Paul is funny. He brings humor to this presidentiual election. Its like that movie with Robin Williams where he plays a comedian running for president. Promising impossible things and getting the sheeple to blindly follow his ridicuous musings.

Thank god 97% of the people don't fall for his bs and on;y 3% of the people in this country are actually sheeple.

reply to post by captainplanet


It seems you don't understand, i don't want to be a leader nor i want to follow one, as i'm anarchist i want freedom and equality for all, so no, after ""my"" revolution i would not be a president or a dictator.
Take back the country(?), i don't care about this piece of earth with invisible line/border i want our right back, our live.
No more politics just the people helping each other and making all for everything work good.

This is of course not possible in one day, people have to change their behaviour and it's not in staying in this way that will change. Money,war,power there is what politician want.
How can a bunch of crap decide for the whole country?
My revolution is maybe a meesy way but your election is just some powder to eyes.

If the election could really change your life, they would be forbidden for a long time.
We are the paws, they are the palyers.

reply to post by Navieko


First do not insult me of dumb because i don't have the same view of you ok?
I'm here for discussion not being insulting because of my idea, i have too much of these in the "real life". maybe i'm a bit rude in my comment but it's never personnaly, so don't, please, start that way

It's always the same when a country need really some change their is always one candidate who propose the good change, in this case Mr. Paul, then he is elected, everything work fine and few month later or bit more, you start to see the real face of him.

"There must be nothing special about this person in particular that is causing this movement"

As i said before don't know if it was to you but if you think he is the good one and he can really do the good change then i hope for you he will be the president, but don't be disapointed if turn out to be just like the other.

Wouldn't we have seen this side of him before, in the 11 years he's been in office, consistently voting with no "flip flopping" and with great intelligence placed behind each vote?

reply to post by dirtonwater


I think you underestimate the acuracy of the National Polls. They're polling 278 people ... all of which most likely voted for Bush.

Every other poll he's been in outside of a "Scientific Poll" (which chooses who votes - what's scientific about that, anyway) he's blown away the other candidates.

Ron Paul might not get the Nomination, but if it were a fair election based on the popular vote, he'd be our next president.

If you want to see what I mean, here's a poll you can vote in. Seems, just like every other poll (other than "choosen voter" polls) he's winning.

[edit on 20-12-2007 by tyranny22]

Well theres three issues with National Scientific polls.

1) You get to choose whos on the nomination. Ron pauls listed under "other" and it never gives you a subcategory. You click it, and they just randomly send it to a "second tier candidate" or just get rid of it.

2) Most Ron paul supporters (like myself) never voted the last election, therefore would not have gotten a call anyways.

3) a large chunk of paul supports don't even have landline phones (like myself.)

Originally posted by dirtonwater
Ron Paul is funny. He brings humor to this presidentiual election. Its like that movie with Robin Williams where he plays a comedian running for president. Promising impossible things and getting the sheeple to blindly follow his ridicuous musings.

Thank god 97% of the people don't fall for his bs and on;y 3% of the people in this country are actually sheeple.

Be gone. Disinformation and un-informed character slander.

Start thinking for yourself, AmeriKKKan.

reply to post by HeadFirstForHalos


Wow, you took the words right out of my mouth. I'll be twenty next year as well. 08 will be the first time I get to show some support for my candidat(which will more than likely be Ron Paul). I've always been pessimistic about the system of electoral colleges and I wish the process was a bit more democratic. However, I feel a strong obligation to vote regardless. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if it will even matter.

Currently many of my friends who live in the states are telling me, that they are pretty much had enough of hate from all around the world. USA has managed what no other nation on earth has before - an immense amount of hate all over the world. I suppose people there don't want to be hated, although goverment appears to do just about everything to ensure that particular thing.

I don't know what's special about this guy, but lets just hope that he will get things changed for the better.

You see, this is all happening because of tourism. Whereever USA people go, they find people who hate them, and hate with a good reason. Although goverment is to blame, people tend to give their bad feelings towards residents. Its not nice when you can't exactly enjoy your vacation.

There was a pole this last week I forget the website URL, 110,000 participants, voted 90% in favor of Ron Paul... who are they kidding really! Sorry, but it is not me, no way! heh

I'm English I live in the UK & have no allegiance with any US political party or candidate, so I think my view is totally unbiased.

The US constitution is the most incredible document ever written. It protects the rights of YOU the citizen, makes sure that goverment acts in YOUR best interests. It is totally to protect the average everyday person - if only any of your governments actually abided by it then you would all be much better off, happier, wealthier, etc.

So how could anyone not want to see it followed to the letter? How can any sane citizen not want a governement that looks after the peoples best interests instead of those of their cronies?

To my mind there is only 1 candidate wanting to actually SERVE the people, & thats Ron Paul.

I suggest that Southern Belle change your name to Southern Dumb Belle "hun" because you haven't the brains you were born with. You probably think that you're patriotic. Well your not. Your definition of patriotism is called jingoism around the rest of the World, & that IS why many people DO hate the USA.

People like Southern Dumb Belle most probably haven't even left the state they live in, never mind the United States, so have absolutely no clue what goes on in the rest of the World or why people feel like they do toward the USA.

My suggestion to SDB is to turn off the goggle box, pack your bags, get on a plane (if welfare will pay for it) & go & visit the big wide World & find out what its really like. Maybe you'll learn something.

[edit on 23-12-2007 by Power_Semi]

reply to post by Power_Semi


Well, apart from some unecessary mud-slinging, you're right. About the Constitution part at least. What I've come to learn is that the great majority of people making the most noise haven't even read the Constitution or Bill of Rights. Fewer still have read the writings of the Founders to understand WHY it was written the way it was. If they did, they'd understand what you are saying.

The United States isn't a flag or a lapel pin. It isn't the military or shock 'n awe. It isn't the President or Congress. It is, in fact, the Constitution and BoR. What people have conceptually lost is that 'our' politicians (all the way to the President) are no different than our doctor, dentist, lawyer, CPA, etc. They are people that we entrust (and pay) to provide a service to us. None have any power over us.

But too few take the time to understand where we are and how we got here. It's alot like highly vocal religious folk. When pressed you'll find that very few have actually read the Bible. Parts perhaps, but never cover to cover. Yet they purport to have all the answers.

Ron Paul is great. He knows about the NWO.

Everyone please vote for Ron Paul. He is waking people up as we speak. Dont let your vote go to waste and support Ron Paul.

Even if it turns out he is one of the Elite he would still awaken a lot of people on his way to the top.

Thats way better than no awakening at all!!

Again, I am more surprised at your surprise of the media. The military controls the media and even though RP is ex-military, he is a supreme threat to the cowardly, shadowy Military Industrial Complex. Even if he wins, he will never be elected. If he becomes too much of a threat, they will do what they always do, a cowardly assassination with a scapegoat. I do not know what the answer is, but RP is what an elected official should be. He is what America needs to become truly a standard for Freedom. But I am very skeptical he will make it, even though he has my vote and support.

I don't hear or see any more about Hunter, Gravelle, Hagel, even Biden and a couple others than about RonPaul.
Several of RP's ideas might be for the better, but definitely not all. A couple are clearly downright, unmistakably dangerous for the world-especially the West.
Follow this link for the self-admission by RP's people as to their web manipulations in their "polls."
littlegreenfootballs.com...
www.ronpaulforums.com...
www.ronpaulforums.com...
www.ronpaulforums.com...
www.ronpaulforums.com...

That's some pretty bad stuff about the polls being skewed like that. I was almost completely sold on Ron Paul until that. This thread has been fun and informing to read and I must say that those of you that were saying that SB was ruining the thread couldn't be more incorrect. That stuff is entertaining to read and besides, it gave everyone else reason to post a lot of quotes and replies to shoot down her opinions.

As for Ron Paul, I am conflicted. I have never voted in my life because it seems all we have to choose from are several piles of excrement from a couple different animals and I felt like I was contributing to the problem if I were to vote for any of them just because I had the right to.

I had first seen Ron Paul when he made an appearance on G4's "Attack of the Show". For those of you who don't know what that is, it is a network that appeals to the younger generation who play video games and are into the latest gadgets such as cell phones and MP3 players; stuff like that. He did a five minute interview on there and I thought he sounded really good. In those five minutes, I could tell that he was different from the usual presidential candidate and just that he was making an effort to reach the younger generation was something that impressed me in itself.

On the flip-side, I have always been of the opinion that in order to be president, you have got to be corrupted or prone to corruption once that person is in office. There have been some people here who have implied this and it's true really. All candidates have come from exactly the same mold until Ron Paul came along and ruined all that. Hehe. I was reading through this thread to kinda educate myself further and to just listen to people go on about it and watch the fight and just generally be entertained.

I was 99% sold until I read the last post in this forum about members from ronpaul.com going around and blowing up internet polls so that he wins and that is pretty serious. So how many of those internet polls that he ran away with were accurate? Is Ron Paul affiliated with this site at all? I want so badly to completely buy into him but if history has taught us anything about this kind of thing, it's that most of the time things are not what they seem and it wouldn't take much to discourage me at this point. This poll skewing thing is a huge strike against him and any internet poll results that he has won, but it doesn't explain the money he got. Could it be that a corporation is helping him and is being suppressed hidden behind it being real people donating money? The poll skewing stuff opens up entirely new possibilities.

On the other hand, are we to just sit back and accept this treatment and never give anyone a chance? What will happen if nothing changes? What would happen if Ron Paul got into office and did the same thing that all presidents do after so many people like myself have finally seen something in a candidate worth a second look? Would anarchy and chaos follow soon after? I don't think the American public needs to be pushed too much further before something gives and it's not going to be pretty.


By the way, to the poster that showed the polls skewing links, what is dangerous to the West that Paul has planned? You can't just tease everyone like that and not go into what you're talking about.

I'm not trying to be pessimistic, just putting some stuff out there is all.

video.google.ca...

Thats part of what we Paul supporters are up against.

As for the online Polls. I don't think spamming happens as much as some of you think. He literally has millions of online fans and they are devout poll voters