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posted on Dec, 16 2007 @ 04:15 PM
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It is an obvious FACT that UFO's are real. the footage hat has been collected and the reports of high up government officials who have gone rouge against the government is undeniable evidence. Everyone that i know, as there are a lot, believe that UFO's are undeniably real, they just don't know what they are or they do not care.

since this is the case it is an outrage that the government will not admit that, at least, UFO"s are a real verifiable phenomena. I am completely enraged that there is no disclousure on this issue from the US government when there is no doubt that they are real.

I am calling for a NATIONAL GATHERING of intelligent minds to demand the disclosure of materials be released from the government into public society. If we stand together as an organized group, by writing letters to congressman, having large protests, etc. etc., I do believe that we can get them to admit this. I am saying that as seekers of truth we have a REPONSIBILITY to get this information released to the public as truth. If we stand together by the thoudands, if not millions, we can not, and will not be harmed.

Let's freakin do this!!!!!!!!

Let us come together as a whole and get organized so we can do something, boycott, hunger-strike, whatever, to get them to release this. I am a firm believer that if there is a will then there is a way. Just think if we get thousands of wills to get our way.

I AM STARTING THIS THREAD TO GATHER IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE CAN NOT BE LAZY AND ORAGNIZE A PEACEFUL ATTACK ON THE GOVERNMENT AS A UNIVERSAL WHOLE OF SEEKERS OF TRUTH!!!! WE CAN DO THIS>>> so lets do it????

Bring on some ideas, lets not be afraid.

lets get it out there, it is time.........



Mod Edit: All Caps – Please Review This Link.

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sorry, didn't know that rule

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posted on Dec, 16 2007 @ 04:28 PM
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You expect too much of us here. It's not on bunch of AT forum geeks to change the world. We already have people trying to do that, making documentaries and arranging press conferences. All we can do is to support them to our fullest and keep the subject alive as possible.



posted on Dec, 16 2007 @ 04:34 PM
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People are doing this by the day, it will come out when they are ready not before, no matter what we do.

It's not out there for a reason and that reason half the Presidents didn't even know!



posted on Dec, 16 2007 @ 04:51 PM
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I'm of the opinion that except for a little better film footage, radar data, and maybe a few odd pieces of metal, the government doesn't know anything more about these things than we do. The U.S. government, anyway, has always had the same policy. They've pretty much admitted UFOs exist, odd things in the sky that are unexplained, but they don't apparently represent a threat to national security. It's not an alien invasion or anything. If these things are alien, they're very passive.

I keep thinking of a scenario where these things are like dream objects. You can grab a UFO flying saucer, put it in a lab and try to study it, but it will just quickly dissolve out of this reality, leaving you with more questions than you started with. That's what I think the government is dealing with.

Otherwise, maybe they're dealing with "objects" that have to do with unusual properties of time that we're not familiar with. Bits and pieces of our own future (or possible future) may be poking their way into our time and space in ways we don't understand. So while they don't represent a threat to national security, they would certainly be of extremely high interest to our government and military.

Now, maybe you're a libertarian, and think that a government shouldn't keep any kinds of secrets from its population, or the rest of the world, for that matter. We should let everybody know everything that we know. I, personally, am not so inclined.

If these things are understandable in some way, and they could potentially be found to have information associated with them that would help preserve the country, I'm thinking that it might be better if it was kept secret, at least until we can better prepare for knowing about it.

I'm also of the opinion that almost nothing good would come from announcing that any kind of advanced spacetime travelers are interacting with us. I've said in the past, I'm convinced most people would not react positively to suddenly finding themselves down a rung (or more) on the evolutionary ladder, or food chain.

So I think it might be better to adopt a curious, cautionary wait-and-see attitude, rather than trying to push for an answer we might not be ready to hear.



posted on Dec, 16 2007 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by FremenBlueEyes
It is an obvious FACT


no, until you can physically see with your own eyes an alien or UFO, it isn't fact.


Everyone that i know, as there are a lot, believe that UFO's are undeniably real, they just don't know what they are or they do not care.


i agree, i believe UFO's are very real, but i can't prove it, and therein lies the problem.



since this is the case it is an outrage that the government will not admit that, at least, UFO"s are a real verifiable phenomena. I am completely enraged that there is no disclousure on this issue from the US government when there is no doubt that they are real.


i don't know their reasons for non-disclosure, but im sure it will have something to do with trying to maintain power over the people, or gain a monopoly on any technology that they may have uncovered over the years.


I am calling for a NATIONAL GATHERING of intelligent minds to demand the disclosure of materials be released from the government into public society. If we stand together as an organized group, by writing letters to congressman, having large protests, etc. etc., I do believe that we can get them to admit this. I am saying that as seekers of truth we have a REPONSIBILITY to get this information released to the public as truth. If we stand together by the thoudands, if not millions, we can not, and will not be harmed.


the government never ceases to amaze me with it's capability to cover up something. it's almost like there's a group of people who sit in a room for hours a day thinking up ways to cover up possible situations, should they occur.


Let's freakin do this!!!!!!!!

Let us come together as a whole and get organized so we can do something, boycott, hunger-strike, whatever, to get them to release this. I am a firm believer that if there is a will then there is a way. Just think if we get thousands of wills to get our way.

I AM STARTING THIS THREAD TO GATHER IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE CAN NOT BE LAZY AND ORAGNIZE A PEACEFUL ATTACK ON THE GOVERNMENT AS A UNIVERSAL WHOLE OF SEEKERS OF TRUTH!!!! WE CAN DO THIS>>> so lets do it????


i am unable to state that i will support you in your movement. i will however, wish you the best of luck in your endeavor.



posted on Dec, 16 2007 @ 06:06 PM
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yeah i know... ridiculous huh???

just like all of the protests for civil rights did nothing for african americans in america, right?

just like women protesting their right to vote did nothing for females inpolitics right?

just like the man that stood in front of a tank in asia, unwaivering, was not admired by millions in the world right?

just like the bus boycott that was started by rosa parksdid nothing for the rights of african americans riding fairly in busses, right?

just like the protesting of gays and their right to be married did nothing for them in the legal arena, right?

i could go on and on..

pessimism is so frustrating.

nothing will ever get done in this world by apathy and refusing to believe.

i am sorry but UFO's are real, i have never seen one but know that they are.

watch UFO's:the greatest story eveer denied, (jose esca- something). All of those government officials must be whackjobs in their stories of what happened to them on classified projects. all of those perfect videos, some recorded by our government, and those plain as day pics of ufo's must be completely fake, right?

i'm sorry, but the government DOES know, and UFO's are undeniably real. to me it is not a matter of opinion.

people were killed in the past because they believed that the world was a sphere and not flat. If galileo were to just have given up bbecause there was no tangible physical evidence in his hands where would we be today?

look at my signature....

outlandish ideas and beliefs are the only ones that progress societies evolution in a major way.

the government has the proof. we just have to get them to give it to us.

or we can just live comfortably in the darkness of falsity.....


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posted on Dec, 17 2007 @ 10:41 AM
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This forum is not a good one to start such threads. I did and the mods don't like it. I am under the belief that there is someone out there with the money to start such an event, but they haven't come out yet. Fear maybe? I'd be scared to do this under the oppression of today, but I'd still do it.

I'd be at your gathering tomorrow, I just can't afford it, which is why I work on my site and my music and prepare to do what I can. There are too many people charging money to do things like this or ranting to the point that all credit is lost. You need to be organized, and have a precise, exact direction you go with your claims.

The movie was by Jose Escamilla, and he is a new member. I loved the movie and think it offers a lot, but his posts have not yet impressed me.

The question is, if the Gov't knows about all this, and work in cahoots, then how can we get on the "ET's" side? That seems to be the point everyone is missing. If there are people in power who know, why are they the only ones? Maybe they are less than civil?



posted on Dec, 17 2007 @ 11:28 AM
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I totally agree. We are never going to find the truth, if we don't look for it. Theres no point sitting back and waiting, we need to find out.

So im with you!

Shawn



posted on Dec, 17 2007 @ 11:52 AM
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yeah shawn!!!! that's awesome.

so now we have 2 out of 130,000 members.

and also, we do not have to spend money at all, but rather organize a national protest with all peoples in their local arenas, all on the same day and the same time.

just think if we get this organized and alert news stations and get national media coverage!!!!!

we CAN do this.



posted on Dec, 17 2007 @ 12:02 PM
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A guy I knew said "a friend of a friend" was a pilot assigned to shoot them down.

Yeah, I know how reliable those 'friend of a friend' stories are. But IF this story were in any way true, I doubt we are as in the dark as the public at large, unless we have been 100% unsuccessful.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 12:53 AM
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yeah... i am still asking for people to join in this attempt to create a full disclosure. i'm pumped up and ready to do this but don't want to be the only guy in the street asking the government to disclose their lies. PLEASE!!! don't make me look crazy. i am a very committed person and when i decide to do something i do it, no matter what. so please don't make me look crazy. i really hates to be ridiculed.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 02:37 AM
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if you say that UFOs exist but dont know what they are , how do you know theyre not evryday terrestrial phenomenon like plasma balls or ball lighting?

what do you expect the governemt to say? " citizens of usa we would like to inform you people see things in the sky they cant identify- but these things could be anything, thats all k thx bye"

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posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 02:43 AM
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You misunderstood what i said. I said that some of my FRIENDS said that they don't know what they are, not me. I know what they are. they are spacecraft that are piloted by extraterresterials or beings that are so large and fast moving that the human eye can not perceive them. I know what ufo's are silly. some of my friends have encountered them, they know they are there, but they have no idea what they are.

hope that clarifies that point.

lets still do this!!!!



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 02:45 AM
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also, check out jose escamillas video UFO's: the greatest story ever denied and you will see that there are no plasma balls or any terrestrial activity. but hardcore video footage of actual ufo's and high up government officials testifying to the existence of actual solid, not plasma, UFO's.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 05:19 AM
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Great post, and yes, i do believe that it is a FACT that UFO's are real, i mean,
let me quote from disclosureproject.org:

"We have over 400 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses testifying to their direct, personal, first hand experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information secret."

400 millitary and government witnesses!!!
And that is just the ones who have come forward!!
I have SEEN the 2 hour long Disclosure Project witness testimony for myself........with my jaw was hanging wide open.
You can see it here:
video.google.com...

I am doing all that i can , giving video copies to my friends and relatives, trying to wake them up to the reality that aliens have engaged the governments of nations for a long time, and our elected representatives just forgot to tell us about it.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 01:55 PM
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Yes! the disclosure project is awesome. that is for business government people who wear suits and are very formal in their means of disclosure. they do a great job though. I am talking about a much more rebellious means of protest and means to disclosure. not violent in any way but very unique. i have some great ideas. i just want more people to jump on before i start throwing them out there.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 02:17 PM
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Count me in as well.

I know that organizing something like this would be a nightmare and is going to take some sort of outside funding. But i also think that if enough people in america actually do get organized and demand something like official disclosure from the government, we may be able to get something done.

The question i pose is this: how do we make demands of the government? petitions? going to the media after we have a large group of people who are dedicated to this cause?
an organized march on washington??? I'm up for all of these options.

I dont thin the way to go about it is always as individuals seeking truth. The fundamental flaw with whats considered alternative research is just that, its still alternative. If enough people get organized and make a demand to the government in an open and public forum, there may be a possibility of results.

I'm in and i'll do anything i can to help out.
Patrick

Oh on a side note.... you should all realize that organizing something like this may cause a lot of undesirable attention by the people that dont want us to have this information.... I'm ready to deal with that, but let it be known that there will be some sort of counter movement by people unknown.... I'm still in.
Patrick



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by W3RLIED2


Oh on a side note.... you should all realize that organizing something like this may cause a lot of undesirable attention by the people that dont want us to have this information.... I'm ready to deal with that, but let it be known that there will be some sort of counter movement by people unknown.... I'm still in.
Patrick



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by W3RLIED2


Oh on a side note.... you should all realize that organizing something like this may cause a lot of undesirable attention by the people that dont want us to have this information.... I'm ready to deal with that, but let it be known that there will be some sort of counter movement by people unknown.... I'm still in.
Patrick


Thank you for your support.
in reference to your side note, i own lots of guns and my brother works for blackwater USA. I have a lot of friends in security protection so, i'm not worried. in regards to you, use your 2nd ammendment right and buy a firearm and then get a conceal and carry permit. protection is awesome.
I am going to work now but will post my ideas for the mass protest tonight. Thanks again



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 02:23 PM
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On another note, all great movements through out history have been considered crazy by people who dont share the same views. So dont let people who disagree get you down. UFO's are not a popular topic because the general public has been so convinced that there is no such thing as extra terrestrials by the government.

The more i think about it the more i think theres going to be a lot of resistance to something like this. DONT LET THAT DETER ANYBODY. IF YOU THINK THIS SHOULD HAPPEN THEN LETS ORGANIZE IT!



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