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posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 11:29 PM
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In between edits this week I am going to add more clips and the still photos that reveal more details and why we need to continue research into the Rods phenomena.

More coming up.

Jose Escamilla




posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 12:14 AM
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more to come...

From all of us that are tired of your commercials and free advertising.

Mods? anyone please.

I think you really need to consider what you are accepting here. I know he may have a large name, but do you want to associate your good name being ATS with this mess. Continues to get his way with the terms and conditions of this sight.

Bottom line is this, He is plugging two things...Interstellar, Which he said he would take down if this is a hoax. At the same time this JLW dissapeared. how convienent and his show about rods on the History Channel comming soon. (you are welcome Jose).

We (members of ATS) are not fools.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 01:57 AM
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No Jose, just ONE picture, where the shutterspeed can be verified from the exif data.

Sorry for the oneliner, but that is all that's being requested.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by Phil J. Fry
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No Jose, just ONE picture, where the shutterspeed can be verified from the exif data.

Sorry for the oneliner, but that is all that's being requested.


No problems with the one liner. I'll be uploading the photo tomorrow that has data attached. I have a full recording session all day tomorrow eight hours. Somethings gauncents can't comprehend. But will when we visit. I have this photo coming up later tomorrow night.

Jose Escamilla

[edit on 20-12-2007 by Jose Escamilla]

[edit on 20-12-2007 by Jose Escamilla]



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 06:09 AM
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Originally posted by tezzajw
My point is that you don't want to assume that there's any cooperation between Springer and Jose and be wrong AGAIN, right? Sure, you were wrong once, please don't make the SAME mistake twice.


It was not an unreasonable mistake to make considering the amount of footage from TDP that's in the film.

And for you to continue to bring it up and gloat and rub it in my face could be viewed by some as harassment, tezzajw.


Now, let's get back to the topic at hand, which is actually, Rods.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 07:32 AM
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That's great to hear, thanks for that.

Now, to convince me, i hope our image experts here have a way to tell, if the exif data has been manipulated, but for now i'll wait and see what you have to present.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 07:37 AM
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Hi Jose Escamilla

I hope your good. I was just reading in another thread, some guy has stated whilst you took photos of these rods you also had pictures of ships around the earth.

Please see here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Is there any truth to what he is saying?



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by RING0
There is one video that shows that rods and insects look exactly the same. Watch the last few seconds, you can clearly see transitions from rods to bugs. The fact that the two phenomenon look identical is very telling.

Mystery of the RODS! Google video


Mystery of the RODS! YouTube


No. I like one the size of airliners:
www.youtube.com...


teslaandlyne (19 seconds ago)
Thats the Quad Coil Tesla designed Super Zeppelin that Hitler promised everyone. Hey, some one or country must have complete Hitlers work. Its the size of an airline, its bigger than a whale, its the biggest living rod ever. No, its a Quad Tesla Flat Coil Super Zeppelin.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:32 AM
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WOW just as i suspected, I see nothing in the three videos that couldnt be man made and added to the clips. In fact the first one, looks like it is computer generated.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 08:49 AM
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Summary of the thread so far.

No. of words posted by OP : 6000+
No. of plugs for TV Show : 7
No. of verifiable facts : 0
No. of Mike Tyson/Preying Mantis ancedotes : 1
No. of White Rabbits pulled out of Magician's hat : 0
No. of sightings of object looking suspiciously like a dead rat in Magician's hat : 36


In 13 years someone could do a Phd. Carry out original research. Have it peer reviewed and published in a respected journal. Then write the text book.

Rod research over the same period consists of: prevarication; procrastination; film plugs; attempts to associate Rods with other urban myths; and dismissive naming calling of those who have verifiably, and repeatably shown Rods to be mundane phenomena.

There’s a dearth of data. No context for any image/clip. No times, dates, shutter speeds. Nothing done to eliminate other plausible explanations. No evidence of any scientific approach at all.

This interview sums it all up. An example of worst sort of sophistry. Some of the assertions and reasoning beggar belief.

paranormal.about.com...


Two examples.


6. How big do you estimate them to be?
…..We can only estimate at this time, but anywhere from a few inches to a hundred or more feet in length.


Look at the accompanying picture. Over a 100ft? It’s a certainly a behe(moth) alright. Let's just hope the Japanese have Godzilla on a 5 minute standby. Surely he'll be needed if these things are hostile.

How did you determine the 'Rod' is behind that cloud? Isn't it natural to assume this is an insect passing close to the camera, rather than, a 100ft+ airborne creature. But then, that wouldn’t sell films would it.
And are you even sure that's a cloud? Could it not be a Water Vapor Collective Hive Mind - the natural predator of this species of giant rod? It’s obviously chasing the Rod in that image.

Utter nonsense.

Or how about this.


7. How fast do you calculate they are moving?
….so they may travel from 150 to perhaps 1,000 miles per hour.


A creature that has evolved to travel at supersonic speed! To what purpose? Do you have any idea how birds and insects displace air to generate momentum? Could this organism even survive at these speeds? How does it generate the thrust? Where does it get the energy from? Perhaps it metabolizes its own sonic booms. That’s why we never hear sonic booms from the larger ones right? Lets explain one utter absurdity with another. Problem solved.

Wouldn’t it be better to try and answer these questions first rather than assume some sort of exotic flying stick? Could it be because the application of the ‘principal of parsimony’ is inversely proportional to the ability to sell films on the internet? I wonder.

If pushing the possible boundaries of evolution wasn't enough, these marvels of nature evolve right before our eyes. Several years ago these earthbound creatures, as if suddenly sensing the call of a potential mate beyond their reach, spontaneously develop the ability to migrate to outer space. And what do we find there? That other intangible icon of Ufology – Orbs.

In a touching and intricate mating ritual, the Orbs and Rods transcend the species barrier to produce offspring. Progeny that looks suspiciously like a Dvd.

Opportunism. At it finest. Sorry. Of course I mean Darwinism.

I wonder where they'll migrate to next. Atlantis perhaps? Ancient Egypt? Surely those shafts in the Great Pyramid must be ‘Rod’ access shafts. ‘Ra and the Rods' sounds like a catchy title doesn't it.

How about 'Rods in the Reich'. That’s crying out to be made. Although I suspect the RODFATHER trilogy will be produced, before we get to see a film that tries to portray Hitler’s moustache as an supersonic, aquatic, space faring, invisible cuttlefish.

I smell a dead rat. Pull the rabbit out of the hat for us Mr. Escamilla. I suspect you can't though.

Have a nice Xmas Jose. Just try not to spoil it for too many others.

Regards,
Tim

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[edit on 20-12-2007 by ChunkyBarcode]



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by geemony
WOW just as i suspected, I see nothing in the three videos that couldnt be man made and added to the clips. In fact the first one, looks like it is computer generated.


You have to understand the configuration of the cylinder ufo.
If one is ever caught on video.

One way would have plasma motors front and back.
Undulation lightning like a traveling wave might engulf the craft.

Plasma streams in fixed locations of the motors may also be possible
as shown in the FOX NEWS footage.

Plasma current is perpendicular to flight, as is the driving magnetic field..
which is invisible.. current you can see ( in a spark ), its generated mag
field is not.

So bright tubes and fast rods might be suspect man made Tesla craft.

But of course some people might send Jose some ropes flung by
gas guns. Some kid prankster make a gas gun and flung a wire across
the street to puncture his neighbors balloon snow man.
It cause 100,000 dollars of damage of telephone and cable wires.
It must have been a long wire.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 02:10 PM
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posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 02:31 PM
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Yeah, too bad Jose is gone.

I'm not up on all his stuff.

His last two topics:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

But he seemed to be every where.
Or at least his threads were jumping.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 02:39 PM
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That was Cooper in his speech about Eisenhower meeting the alien king.

Personally I think Hitler was shown to Eisenhower who then had a heart attack
and later gave the MIC speech.
There was Ike under an oxygen tent and Nixon was waiting to take charge
for the alien in ships above the earth.



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 02:40 PM
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Let me get this straight .. fjords of sweden? I have never heard of the fjords of sweden, but I have def. heard of the fjords of norway, because we are the ones with the fjords .. Unless this is just made up ..



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 04:13 PM
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[edit on 20-12-2007 by winkwink]



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 05:26 PM
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"Amen" ChunkyBarcode,


"Sciences" "methods" These 2 words are not part of Mr Escamilla's vocabulary. Replace this words by " using people's ignorance to make a living" and there you go, just like 1+1 = 2

Mr E"scam"illa if you are reading this, you have burned yourself big time, not only in America but soon here in Europe. You DO NOT know who you where talking to but let me tell you that we 're going to pass the word on and it will spread faster than the HIV disease.

I am glad that ATS did the right thing.


Peace



posted on Dec, 20 2007 @ 10:27 PM
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Perfectly said!

Jose was saying wait until tomorrow for pics. What were we waiting for another plug

He also stated yesterday morning in california how it was raining all day and would be around to contribute. He didn't post anything on anythread until later that night. Just milking the thread until the show comes out.



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 02:07 AM
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While i completely agree with the mighty ban hammer, i would have preferred to dismantle his "evidence"....guess i'll have to wait for a long long time now to actually see a "rod" photographed with high shutterspeed


And his little entourage of fans, don't worry - i bet, he'll appear in another forum very soon



posted on Dec, 21 2007 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by Phil J. Fry
While i completely agree with the mighty ban hammer, i would have preferred to dismantle his "evidence"....guess i'll have to wait for a long long time now to actually see a "rod" photographed with high shutterspeed



Spot on Phil.
It's a pity Rodnarok came to pass, but if the comedic value of the things he had posted up until his ban was anything to go by, I think Mr. Escamilla may well have missed his true calling in life.

Would have made for an entertaining thread at the very least. I think Springer should look into producing an ATS leather bit , or gum shield. I nearly bit my tongue off laughing at some of the things he posted.


I actually feel a little sorry him. While I haven't conjured up images of Jose grubbing around in bins for potato scraps just yet, I wonder his about motivations. The internet is a very impersonal place and it's difficult to know the personal circumstances of someone. He seemed a little desperate. Perhaps he's in trouble financially. I suppose selling Rod DVDs is better than pushing drugs or robbing banks.


Regards,

Tim.





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