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The anti-gay Christian Right's "sexual reorientation therapy" has ruined countless lives. Can it be stopped?
Reparative or sexual reorientation therapy, the pseudo-scientific foundation of the ex-gay movement, has been discredited by virtually all major American medical, psychiatric, psychological and professional counseling organizations.
The American Psychological Association declared "There is simply no sufficiently scientifically sound evidence that sexual orientation can be changed.
Although the stated aim of the movement is to turn gays straight and bring them to God, it actually now has as much to do with battling the gay rights movement by trying to prove that sexuality is not an immutable characteristic like race or gender. Ex-gay ministries began as redoubts for men and women trying to reconcile their faith and sexuality. But in the hands of the anti-gay Christian Right, they have become full-fledged propaganda machines depicting gays as sex-addicted, mentally ill, and stunted heterosexuals.
Originally posted by IAF101
Actually I believe it is the other way around.
Originally posted by IAF101
...has gone making homosexuality and bestiality more commonplace and even marketed.
Originally posted by IAF101
People can understand this by the fact that in Western Nations the number of people homosexually oriented is steadily increasing year after year.
Originally posted by IAF101
These are not "natural" cases but converts or experimentalists.
Originally posted by goosdawg
Originally posted by IAF101
Actually I believe it is the other way around.
You're kidding, right?
Originally posted by goosdawg
Well there's your problem right there, what's bestiality got to do with homosexuality?
Originally posted by goosdawg
The number of people of all stripes and persuasions has increased, everywhere, year after year.
Originally posted by goosdawg
Would you mind backing up this opinion with quantifiable, statistical evidence?
Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan
reply to post by goosdawg
So what?
I'm sure the people in these classes are not there by force. If they want to attend then why don't you just mind your own business and stop trying to force your views on others.
While I have nothing personal against gay people, their behavior is not natural IMO.
Originally posted by kattraxx
With all due respect, a personal belief that gay behavior is "not natural" that is nothing personal against gay people confuses me.
I think the point of the article is why don't these control freaks running these classes just mind their own business and stop trying to force their views on others.
Originally posted by IAF101
Originally posted by goosdawg
Well there's your problem right there, what's bestiality got to do with homosexuality?
It is marketed for its "freak" and "shock" value by tying it into the BDSM theme and other "fetish" oriented debaucheries.
Originally posted by IAF101
Today, some teenager is homosexual, tomorrow he is bisexual and the day after he is hetrosexual and maybe a week after he is asexual ?
Originally posted by IAF101
Also this happens to the sexual vagrants in the homosexual community as well. Some people suddenly decide to become homosexual people after living in families with children. All these make it hard to put a percentage on them I think.
Originally posted by IAF101
But from the general sense of the surroundings I think the number of homosexual people are more today as in their percentage is increasing unnaturally with respect to what can reasonably explained as "natural" occurrences.
Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan
So what?
Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan
I'm sure the people in these classes are not there by force.
Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan
If they want to attend then why don't you just mind your own business and stop trying to force your views on others.
Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan
While I have nothing personal against gay people, their behavior is not natural IMO.
Originally posted by xmotex
The concept of "homosexuality" as a phenomenon didn't really exist before the late 19th century.
Genesis 19
[4] But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
[5] And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
[6] And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
[7] And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
[8] Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
[emphasis mine]
quod.lib.umich.edu...
Originally posted by goosdawg
Are you sure?
That's where you're wrong!
I would never force my views on someone else, that's the province of the self-righteous.
Actually, judging by the behavior of most of the animal kingdom, I'd have to, respectfully, disagree with you there.
Originally posted by goosdawg
Actually, judging by the behavior of most of the animal kingdom, I'd have to, respectfully, disagree with you there.
Just because something is done in the animal kingdom does not mean its natural or normal and this analogy does not help your case. There are deformations and freaks of nature all the time in the animal kingdom. Also, you do realize we have evolved higher than creatures in nature right?