The Interstellar Case Files: by Jose Escamilla, page 3
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reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 07:03 PM by sherpa
reply to post by Jose Escamilla



Thank you Jose for responding to that thought so quickly.

I would like to ask you one other question and forgive me for being so direct, there is clearly an ongoing dispute between yourself and JLW and gridkeeper and I am not privy to all the details, but I personally like to have an inkling as to peoples honesty and motives.

Have you posted on this forum under any other aliases ?


reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 07:17 PM by Ironclad
reply to post by Jose Escamilla



Lenard only has to fear reprisal from the Powers that be, as long as few people know about him & his Film.

If he had kept his word, gone public to the entire world with all the relevant Information, he would no longer be a threat & would have nothing to fear.

It's what I would have done. Getting the info out real fast, before the powers had a chance to Isolate me & take me out, would have been the smartest move to make. As opposed to screwing around, umming & ahhrring and generaly making excuses.

This is one of the very reasons I personally think the guy is full of crap.

As for Gridkeeper... lol don't get me started on that guy. Not after the new wave, hippy crap he's pushed about Pine Gap.


[edit on 12/15/2007 by Ironclad]


reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 07:19 PM by Jose Escamilla
reply to post by Lexion



Lex,

First of all there will be no mud slinging and if you're going to be adding more of your baseless accusations and slurs here, we don't need your narrow minded comments and viewpoints in this thread.

I am calling out those that claim to have the real deal and that's what this thread is about. Are you awake or what? I clearly have not claimed to have ALL the proof. I simply stated on "Page 1" that everything I state pertaining to this case and my claims can be proven in a court of law. That is not about UFOs! beeeep! Go back to page 1.

So Lex, unless you can add anything to this thread rather than brainless accusatory banter, wasting valuable space, I say bug off! Or email me and you and I can have a go at it in private.

Sincerely - Jose Escamilla


reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 07:24 PM by sherpa
reply to post by Ironclad



Ah but money is a seductive mistress and many people will take big risks if they think they can profit from their information.

Personally I think that this is the source of the problem here, it is a shame that money has muddied the waters where the facts can be found.



reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 07:25 PM by Jose Escamilla
reply to post by williamjklopp



Hello William Klopp! You forget William, that I offered to pay you back and "I can prove this" you said no problem, send me a DVD. I was going to that Monday and then you send a nasty email to my partner Saskia, and to me, and then I called you on it and you never answered me back. Instead, lo and behold...here is Klopp on this thread. Well guess what Klopp! I'm calling you on this. I will post your email in the forum thread you and that other guy from Australia are posting ill thoughts and lies about me and my business.

NOT in this thread, so Klopp I suggest you stay out of this thread. You have nothing to state and no grounds for making those accusations and you know. Remember...I kept ALL your emails! I will post them on "your other thread." Not here.

Man all these bozos coming out of the woods...I love it!

Sincerely - Jose Escamilla


reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 07:32 PM by W3RLIED2
reply to post by sherpa



Is every body thats posted recently so blood thirsty over money??? I for one am at this place for other motives, that have nothing to do with money, and to be honest could give a rats you know what about some peoples personal issues with what they chose to spend thier money on.

With that said, you probably should have waited any way because most of Jose's stuff is available on the net HA thats gotta be a tough one to get over. Any way, this is still all skirting the issue at hand. Youd think with all the demand this topic has created that Santa monica john would have come up with something by now... I've got patience though. Thanks zorgon for the cool pics and info!


reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 07:47 PM by sherpa
reply to post by W3RLIED2



Since your post was a initially a reply to me I think I had better clarify somewhat.

The part of my post refering to money and risks was in connection to ironclads comments about detail disclosure of the original material and the creator thereof John Lenard Walson.

I believe ironclad had confused JLW with Jose and thats where the misundertanding lies.

Again it is my belief that JLW wants to profit from his material and I am neutral on that point.

As a postscript I have bought books in the past on the ufo subject so clearly I have been prepared to pay for information.


reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 07:52 PM by livo74
welcome to ats jose!

(and not before time, things have got messy)

"..Lenard pulled the cork on me in an attempt to breach our agreement before I had a chance to really get it together with him and see this performed in front of myself, and our rolling cameras.."

"..All this thread is about, is to get on with this and bring the truth to the world. I am not pointing fingers, calling Lenard a hoaxer, I am simply wanting all the answers to this mysterious apparatus in the public's eye, so we can all "see" what is, or what is not there. Do you get what I mean?.."

those of us who have been trying to follow this subject sure do, jose!!
and thank you for joining us in trying to determine the actuallity of the phenomenon.
some (myself included) are seriously hoping for this to be real!

post by radaghast5
"..I was reading the thread that got this whole thing started. Somone was stating that "something" was gonna be revealed this sunday...
..In the words of a famous wizard I guess "We shall see what we shall see".."

i have been watching this forums thread and anothers, and no sign of griddy as yet.

post by sherpa
"..Also just thinking aloud regarding the statement by gridkeeper and the timeing of this thread, coincidence ?.."

probably coincidence. debates (and defamatory statements) have gone on long enough, and maybe this will be the start of us finding out the truth about the objects.
(..and still awaiting griddy's sunday post)
************

"..I am planning to release three films on You Tube, Google, My Space and any web sites willing to carry and present my films for "free!"
event tentative date set at: February 25, 2008. The 66 year anniversary of The Battle of LA..."

BRING IT ON!!!
(and the best of luck, my friend)

sincerly,
mathew liversidge
melb aus


reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 07:58 PM by williamjklopp
Originally posted by Jose Escamilla
reply to
post by williamjklopp



Hello William Klopp! You forget William, that I offered to pay you back and "I can prove this" you said no problem, send me a DVD. I was going to that Monday and then you send a nasty email to my partner Saskia, and to me, and then I called you on it and you never answered me back. Instead, lo and behold...here is Klopp on this thread. Well guess what Klopp! I'm calling you on this. I will post your email in the forum thread you and that other guy from Australia are posting ill thoughts and lies about me and my business.

NOT in this thread, so Klopp I suggest you stay out of this thread. You have nothing to state and no grounds for making those accusations and you know. Remember...I kept ALL your emails! I will post them on "your other thread." Not here.

Man all these bozos coming out of the woods...I love it!

Sincerely - Jose Escamilla


I have yours as well.

I will leave this forum when I choose to. Thanks for your concern.



reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 08:13 PM by Jose Escamilla
reply to post by iohen



The problem with a net across the cave is, there are also parrots, millions of swallows, butterflies, and other insect life there, so a net will never be put across the pit. More to this, and I will address all this in the Rods thread I am planning on setting up soon. For now it's Interstellar only here on this thread.

Jose Escamilla


reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 08:16 PM by Jose Escamilla
reply to post by housegroove23



You know, I think Lex's description by you is really cool! I won't be so harsh on him. Klopp? Well what can I say? Stubborn childish behavior at it's best.

Jose Escamilla


reply posted on 15-12-2007 @ 08:21 PM by Jose Escamilla
reply to post by sherpa



I do have some legal issues with Lenard. He has breached our contract for making the film Interstellar, and there are more details I won't go into here in this thread.

Regarding any posting by me under any aliases; No, I never sign on anywhere posing as someone else. I will always post signing my name. Nothing to hide, no reason posing as someone else. Just the way I am that's all.

Jose Escamilla
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