All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

False statement. Patriotic to the hilt of course. But false.
Any number of possiblities have been explored on how it could be done.

And another thing.

How does disagreeing = attempting to hijack the thread?

Or did you just want a bunch of "I completely agree with you, your soo smart." yes man egomasterbation?

That being said, that is all I will say though I am tempted to say more.
Good day sir.

[edit on 13-1-2008 by WraothAscendant]

No, on further reflection, Pavlovsdog, you are not one of us. You are a government disinfo agent/apologist, or a fool - at best. You're not going to agree or give space to anyone or anything in this thread without attempts to discredit, are you?

Theresa, this guy is only posting to try to convince others that your posts are bogus. Actually it is Pavlovsdog that is bogus.


Keep posting everyone, but suggest you ignore the enemy when you spot him. PAVLOVSDOG is intententionally trying to disrupt otherwise constructive discourse in an otherwise friendly, open-minded, truthseeking forum, albeit a highly sensitive one such as is this thread.

DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS GUY!! But keep responding to one another, for he is not one of you!

Originally posted by WraothAscendant

All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

False statement. Patriotic to the hilt of course. But false.

in 1938 Abraham Lincoln made this statement. what i'm talking about is it must spring up from within which is the subject matter of this particular thread and not the invasion of china!!!!! stick to rabbit holes and leave china out of it okay? that's hijacking!

About when did all this start?

month/year?

I think I may be onto something here

Pavlovsdog,

You asked me :

I still want an answer as to why you had no camera or video equiptment but you have access to equiptment to determine a '12khz signal'

Well firstly I did not measure the frequency of the tone, not back in 2002 or just the other night either. I know what a 12kHz signal sounds like, for sure, since I've been plagued with it incessantly, off and on, since November 2001.

Let me explain further.

In Late November 2001, I began to experience (different that actually "hearing") very intense high frequency attenuated tones, that sometimes lasted for a few minutes, but othertimes lasted for entire day. Initially the tones were so intrusive, I lost sleep quite frequently. In January 2002 I was diagnosed with a condition of colon polyps caused by the HPV virus, which condition requried surgery. Several very expensive diagnostic test were required before my doctor/surgeon in Ellijay would or could perform the surgery here locally, and being uninsured at the time I could not afford these procedures. Theresa and I were married and both needed medical procedures (hers were minor then I recall compared to mine) so Theresa found out about a govt. assistance program sponsored by the Augusta Medical College Hospital system in Augusta Ga for people in our situation, and Theresa made the arrangements for us to travel to Augusta in late January (don't recall dates). While I was there getting biopsy and other diadnostics for the colon polyps, I mentioned to the intake nurse about my "hearing tones". She asked me a few questions and then made an appointment for later that afternoon with the hospitals audiologist. I had my hearing thouroughly tested, and then sat down with the Audiologist to review the results. She confirmed what I already new. I have perfect and exceptionally acute hearing, range being 25Hz - 18,000Hz, which is very unusual especially above 15,000Hz because less than 1% of human poulation can hear above 15Hz and then only slight hearing at those frequencies. The bizarre thing is, the test results showed a marked hearing loss at precisely 12,000Hz. I could hear tones perfectly at 11,000Hz, and pefectly at 13,000Hz, but I had a 65db loss at 12,000Hz in one ear, and a 45 db loss at 12,000Hz in the other ear. The audiologist said there is no such thing as "selective frequecy" hearing loss unless one is continually exposed to an external sound source at a precise frequency. I had not been exposed to any such high amplitude external environmental noise/sound source, so that was ruled out. But I was "experiencing" the tone during the hearing tests, infact during that whole trip. I explained everytthing about hearing the tone incessantly, and she finally concluded that I did not, in fact have "selective frequency" hearing loss, but that the test results were skewed by my "hearing" the tone during the test. Its called "masking". That frequency was being "masked" by my hearing the tone during the test. Do you understand this?

I "hear" this 12,000Hz tone especially intense during local weather engineering events (electrical storms especially) and periodically throughout the day, most days, with varying intensity, and sometimes it stops altogether. There is no sound involved: my brain is simply attenuated to and "hears" this EM frequency without the auditory nerve involved. I could explain a lot more in a conversation. This is not best forum to try to fully explain. Many, many people "hear" this tone, so this is common, and it is even common knowledge among people aware of whats going on EM wise, in our modern environment. Theresa began to "hear" the tone after some few months after we moved out to the 584 Harper Valley road property.

Hope this answers how I "knew" about the 12,000 frequency tone the other night when I was ther. Been hearing it now for 7 years. Sadly I've grown accustomed to it and it seems totally normal to me to hear it, although at the intense levels is uncomfortable still

I think you are confused again. There is no jellyfish craft in that thread. Maybe you posted the wrong link

Originally posted by spannmark
...landing at at invisible (yes, I said invisible) landing field/airbase, moving (and disappearing) trees as well as entire forests, entirely new (an non-existant) mountain ranges appearing out of nowhere, and literally hundreds upon hundreds of totally fantastic, mind blowing experiences....

This section of this message jumped out and grabbed me and reminded me of something I've forgotten about for years and years, that is perfect ATS material.

One of the first things that piqued my interest in suppressed knowledge was when I met someone in college who lived "right outside" (according to him, I can't verify it) the infamous Montauk Air For Base/Camp Hero. He told me a wild story that I completely forgot about until I read this message.

What I can remember is that he lived in a relatively well-off, but populated and certainly suburban-style, neighborhood. There were some woods in back of and next to his house, but his next-door neighbors were close enough that he could see their house through the woods. Allegedly there was a small copse of trees behind his house, followed by either a clearing or something, then beyond that a short distance was the limits of the base.

This man told me several stories, but the one that I remember the most and which was triggered by the quote above, was regarding how things would appear behind his house once in a while. Nothing grand or very obvious like mountains, but I remember he said that one day his family woke up and there was a series of extremely tall poles installed in the ground just beyond the woods in back of the house (allegedly near the edge of the base). He and his father went out to investigate and there were wooden poles, like telephone utility poles but thicker, in the ground where there were none before, however the entire area looked undisturbed. In order to install such things, one would think at least one truck would be needed, along with a work crew, however there was absolutely no sign of anything disturbed nearby. No tire tracks in dirt, no shrubs or trees damaged, nothing. The next day when the family woke up, the poles were gone, and again a check of that area revealed no sign at all of anything having been there, no holes in the ground, no disturbed soil, nothing.

There were other similar stories he had, but that one stands out the most. The only other one I recall specifically is when he said he was near the edge of the base at night with his friends, snooping around. I have never been there so I do not know what the layout is like, but he said they were walking down some trails or dirt roads in the area in back of his house, and they were coming up to a junction where some trails met, and they could make out in the darkness that a pickup truck was parked there, idling with its lights off. They went into the trees and off the trail to walk around the place where the truck was parked, and started down another trail that led away from the truck. They stopped every once in a while to see if they were being followed. Well here is the strange part...allegedly they were still within easy visual distance of where the truck had been, even though it was at night, when they turned around and the truck was no longer there. The kids were scared out of their minds but someone went back to see if they could see what happened. When that person got to the trail junction, there was no truck and no sign of a truck, no tire tracks, footprints, etc.

I am going to see if I can locate the person who told me these stories...hmm this could be a thread in itself, but I decided to keep this post here to keep it in context, and maybe Mark can comment of these events are anything like any experience he had.

I'm wondering if this thread is dead. Havnt seen the op in a few days. I told her how to take a video off a camera and 'poof' ---- gone. Hope shes ok.