Rabbit Holes - Searching for Alice

What would help alot is a labeling of the following numbered features, ONE thru SEVENTEEN, and features F1-F3, along with misc. unknown areas on the following images. If you remember the owner name and/or the addresses of the properties, any other little tidbits as well about each area. You can just list the feature followed by the proper labeling of each would be great.

Also if you know how to use PAINT or other graphics programs you can label other features that I haven't listed, such as the fence boundaries etc. Paint is a simple software program, you can just use paintbrush or pencil in that software to 'draw' over the image, then save and re-upload..Let me know if I can help you if needed.

I will see if any other satellite images are available in the meantime. Thanks much.

Image 1
Structures, property: ONE-EIGHT
Entrance location for 584;


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Image 2
Structures, property: NINE-TWELVE
Unknown features: F1, F2, F3


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Image 3
Structures, property: THIRTEEN-SEVENTEEN
Lake/Pond Label
Gate Location Label


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Here are another set of aerial images, from 1999, notice the differences (someone want to do an overlay?). The chicken coops not present along with other changes.


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[edit on 20-4-2008 by battlestargalactica]

I came to see the last post on this thread, in MyATS it shows battlestar to be the last poster, yet musselwhite shows as the last poster.

Same thing happened the other day with a post by pavlovsdog, it showed him as the last poster yet his post didn't show and then a mod posted a "test" post.

Musselwhite indicated to me there were some pics posted but I don't see them.



Edit to add:

Well there ya go! Can't miss them there pics, can ya???

[edit on 20-4-2008 by interestedalways]

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This is the best I could do for the moment.

Circle #1:
Parcel 3077 001C - Owner, W. Copeland Family, parcel 3077 001C House 64.234.218.46...

parcel 3077 001D 64.234.218.46... this is the poultry farm

parcel 3077 001 64.234.218.46...

there is a small strip of land between Circle 1 and Entrance that has absolutely no information on Gilmer County Tax Assessor’s map.

Circle #2

Is part of Copeland land and houses farm worker.

Circle #3

Parcel 3077 006 was purc’d by John Harr, 64.234.218.46...


Circle #4 & 5

Parcel #3077 002 Owner, Eldridge Harper 64.234.218.46...

Circle #6

Parcel #3077 019 Owner, Harper 64.234.218.46...

Circle #7

Parcel 3077 001B Owner, Fed Nat’l Mtg Assoc, Washington, DC
Prior owners: Omanion 64.234.218.46...

Circle #8

Parcel #3077 003 - Owner, Mallie Addicks, 480 Harper Valley 64.234.218.46...

Circle 9

Owned by battle and is fenced off sections of horse pastures, 64.234.218.46...


Circle #10

584 Harper Valley

Fig: 1 is the power lines
Fig: 2 is electric fence leading to horse pastures
Fig: 3 probably boundary line beween harper prop and addicks valley

Circle #11 owner, battle

Circle #12

Unknown – looks like a man riding a horse.

Circle #13

Is a man-man water fall and pool area – owner battle

Circle #14

Horse barn – owner battle

Circle #15

Small pond – no name - owner battle

Circle #16

Something new or I do not remember any bldg near Fowler’s Lake

Circle #17

Hugh 2-story log, bunk house – owner battle –

Gate: no that is not the gate which blocks off the road. The gate is located near circle #10.

I noticed the 1999 images. Gilmer county tax assessors office 64.234.218.46... shows poultry house/broiler first built and owner by pierce. It also shows something out of the ordinary, to wit: (1) it shows the homesite was built in 2005. the house existed in 2002 and a very, very long cement drive added 2004. It also shows a pole shed built in 2004 and 2 add’l pole shed in 2007. wrong.

A point of interest: the purchasers of the poultry farm (4/03) and the battles (6/03) have a mailing address in Marietta, Georgia (Copeland 271 Farm Rd., Marietta, Ga)(Battle 4240 Columns Dr, Marietta, Georgia) are only a little over 2 miles apart.

The prior owners of 933 harper (battle) was a Frank H. Jeffery.

Below Fowler’s Lake is a dam that looks to be quite out of place.

reply to post by interestedalways

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no sirree, might add they are wonderful. i've been wanting this for a while. because i am a computer moron, i could not use the software program "paint".

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Awesome job labeling those questions I know it was a lot of work, thanks. I just wanted to get my bearings with this thread since just coming in.

Circle 16: This little building looks like it may be a pumphouse, control, valves etc for irrigation/spillover from lake Fowler to the property (bunkhouse, horses, stables, barn etc). Interesting, yes it isn't present in 1999 either and probably few years after that (since you don't remember it).

Other: So who owns the chicken farm? I think it's still in the same family control..correct me if wrong. This is the 5255 Flat Branch Rd Property:

(12-21-2004) COPELAND W FAMILY LLLP <--$0-- APPALACHIAN EXCHANGE HOLDING S <--$0-- PIERCE Family

Then the poultry farm property:
04-30-2003 $1,075,000 Personal Property included with sale PIERCE, DAVID J & JESSIE I --> COPELAND W FAMILY LLLP & APPALACHIAN

It seems that it has just been transferred from trust to trust, consolidation, standard stuff. The last transaction on the 5255 Flat Branch Rd property seems to by Dec 2004 and the 5329 property (the farm) was transacted 04-30-2003 to the same "COPELAND W FAMILY LLLP & APPALACHIAN" as the 5255 property (see above).

Confused yet?

What do you think?

On another note: The entire gate location of the coach property seems illegal to me. First off, it's a county road, no gate should be allowed the length of a county road unless some weird zoning exists, but doubtful.

Secondly, Lake Fowler seems to me to be a public lake and should be accessible to the public, which that big gate precludes.

Fowler Lake Dam USGS Cashes Valley Quad, Georgia, Topographic Map



Fowler Lake Dam is a Dam in the state of Georgia (county of Gilmer), located at latitude - longitude coordinates (also known as lat-long or GPS coordinates) of N 34.78675 and W -84.47993.

Fowler Lake Dam is shown in the center of the topographic (topo) map, which is sourced from the United States Geographical Survey map USGS Cashes Valley quad. The nearest major town is East Ellijay, GA.

• Feature Type: Reservoir
• Latitude: 34.7868
• Longitude: -84.4799
• Elevation: 1857 ft (566 m)

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Seems odd to me, looks like the coach has pulled some illegal strings. I'm sure if someone wanted to raise some hell legally, the gate would come down.

[edit on 20-4-2008 by battlestargalactica]

i used to hike the right side of Fowler's lake on the side of the mtn. but since that side of the mtn from the base to the tip is now owned by 933 harper valley (coach).

w copeland family purchased 3 tracks of land (refer to circle 1) w/3 different addresses. it appears the links to not work so go to www.qpublic.net... and put in parcel # and you will get a better feel for the layout of the land.

agreed from trust to trust; however, the wife of previous owner stated that they just wanted out of the chicken business. I do not believe "trust to trust" denotes a family connection between prior to present owners. just a "trust to trust". during research there does not appear to be a link, imho.

to the contrary.

quite illegal. the dept of corrections probation officer came to my house wanted to know why the gate was locked because state law requires he have access to monitor the status of a probationer who was heavily involved in drugs lived in a cabin w/no runnng water, located on battle property and previously inhabited by the hendersons. much activity at and from this cabin which i do need to go into details about. this cabin is connected with both drug drops and military.

The Dept of Natural Resources once came and asked why the gate was locked. Never saw him or the probation officer again.

used to be a good fishing hole for many locals. after i moved to 584 there was plenty of traffic until they got used to the fact they no longer had access.

unlikely.

i really appreciate the pics. i've been wanting this for so long. thanks

also, this object was found inside a 5 gal water bucket under a low hanging branch pear treat in my drive way. [ /URL][URL=http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic01879weirdthing1iz7.png]
if the second pic does not show up then i just don't know just can't tell what i did wrong.

discussed in this thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

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This is a drawing of 584. The shop is somewhat different. Approximately 20’ from the pear tree located in forefront is the beginning of 933 harper valley and is evidenced by fenced in drive. You can see that we had a clear view of the first and only cargo plane (no running lights) that flew very low and in betw circle 9 & 11. The “clicking” heard shortly after came from the direction of the shop and from the wooded area to the extreme right of the picture. The male voice could be heard as if walking harper valley a hop skip and a jump from our bedroom window walking back down harper valley and coming from 933. From my top of my drive I can look down upon the chicken houses and 511 harper (omanion).

I always walked the property, coffee in hand, each morning. I noticed the back shop window ajar and discovered a foot print on the counter. I showed this to mark. If I remember the footprint seemed small. The material that formed the footprint was not dirt but something like grey clay. I also found 2 “cow” patties sized globs of what also appeared to be grey clay. I dug into these patties w/a stick and they were about 3” thick and they did not have a smell. I also heard a “cough” one evening I believed came from the shop.

The pear tree at the end of my drive, closest to house, was where I found the orb. The branches of this pear tree hang to the ground when laden w/pears. The 5 gal bucket of water was located close to the trunk and also served to shade my dog. It is highly unlikely and too weird to find the orb.

I could see the lights from my living room window that rose from the chicken houses crossing over addicks prop and finally coming to rest in the sky w/all the other stars and, in fact, appeared to be a star excepting for its brightness or could have been closer and appeared to be brighter than normal stars.

Referring to pics in thread, at the tip of Fig 1 is a valley. It is this valley that I saw a coned shaped craft that seemed to be welding. That is the only way I can described what I saw. It appeared to be spot welding. The intense light coming from this did not reflect or put out light. The light seemed to be contained. In other words, that thing, whatever it was, should have lit the entire valley.

reply to post by battlestargalactica

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in the 1999 ariel photos (2nd & 3rd) you can clearly see 584 property and the field in the back.

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Neat pics, did you ever find out what the heck that orb object was? It looks like a matrix of material, like honeycombed, a wasp nest or the like...? Do you have better pics of it? Also what is the weight, and material that its made from?

p.s. Get a free account at imageshack and you can inline post images easily. Let me know if I can help.

hi there,

thanks for the updates and emails musselwhite,

to Battlestargalactica,

so glad you have joined us in this topic, as i said before to you " you have been very busy on here recently", good work and excellent posts.

take care

snoopyuk

i've debated for sometime about this thread. after seeing the visuals, a flood of memories were jogged and it all came back. the strangeness in the skies, the men on the ground, the launches from the farm, the stars (if they were stars), the tunneling, animal and insect disappearance, neighbors no longer there.......

i don't want to go back..........................

i did not go looking for this rabbit hole, i was put in its path.

this thread was not intended to go anywhere.

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musselwhite, I had never spoken to you before you came to ats and had the coffin thread going, with much member participation and cooperation, it was a first for me to see that kind of dedication and skills at work.

Then there was this thread and there was once again a desire to know more, an idealism that it could be explored and people were even geared to do so, but then things changed a bit.

The idea of exploraton was met by comments like members like Xayden who said you may be hunting and have an exberet or something to the likes appearing. Also Mark told of his last trip and trucks and even personal encounters with poeple questioning his presence.

As much as I would like to go exploring it almost seems as if there is something of military or black ops going on and visitors aren't welcome. Maybe for our good, maybe for our demise.

Nevertheless after getting to know you by keeping in touch I believe the things of which you tell.

I find it helpful when thinking about 'strangeness' to put on a skeptics hat, approach what you have experienced with a devils advocate appraoch.

I'm not trying to discount what you have experienced, but sometimes when looking at an event from numerous sides, you may find that you discover something new about the event, something that your subconscious mind 'saw' but 'you' didn't.

Wanna try (or perhaps you have already done this)?

i appreciate your comment and most of all your interest which provoked me to further participate.

maybe it changed because there were too many different angels and most importantly, I had to come to grips w/what is real and what is not. I am grateful to have been placed in this path because now I know. I am able to accept what I believe to be true and go forward.

not to mention sunny perdue thread. did some tracking on him and found some interesting things.

i've always wanted to go back there exploring but honestly i would have to have balls of steel and tote steel before i go back. i've tried to warn people the hammer is about to come down on unsuspecting rural america and it "ain't gon a be purty."

good enough for me. have you noticed all the suspected unknown underground infrastructures other than the known have all been ignored.

o, i did find a neighbor off flat branch and i intend to write to him. he mentioned to mark he witnessed the launching of the lights.

yeah, a skeptics hat was what i wore searching the net for a site that would put into perspective those surface indicators of underground tunnnelling witnessed there. after i found mr. smith's site i began to shake uncontrolably. i emailed so many organizations that would listen to me and from one of those contacts i was referred to ats. i was so afraid to post. my first post was in www.abovetopsecret.com... and immediately taken back by ancrom wherein he states:www.abovetopsecret.com... i was scared s h i t l e s s!

ok

lets.

i finally found the date when all the sci-fi began (september 2004). it was the night the lights went out in georgia.

i knew it had to be around october 2004 but here is a link that shows power loss.


broadcastatlanta.com...

www.uaff.us...

i thought this link quite interesting insofar as south of Atlanta being the hub for UN/foreign troops.

w/military underground infrastructures from Marietta, Ellijay, Dawsonville, kinda makes me wonder.

Anonymous ATS, would you please post according to ATS handbooks so i might be able to learn what you have to say? your posts keep getting deleted because of it.