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FLIGHT 93 - The Biggest 911 Smoking Gun!

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posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 01:37 AM
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reply to post by IvanZana
 


Agreed. I thought that had been put to bed some time ago.




posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by IvanZana


Yes, We ALL agree that no plane crashed in Shanksville on 911.

Show and tell everyone who is not sure of 911, the pictures of the Mock plane crash site in Shanksville also known as the "Flight 93" crash site shows no plane crash.

So in conclusion.....

No plane crashed in Shanksville.


And yet you can't prove it's all been faked. You can't prove that the 1000s of people involved or all lying and/or wrong. Go ahead and explain to us how they pulled off these feat you are claiming. I would love to hear it.

Until then you kids go back to sitting on the internet pretending nothing happened instead of doing something about it like going to the press or the police.



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by snoopy

Originally posted by IvanZana


Yes, We ALL agree that no plane crashed in Shanksville on 911.

Show and tell everyone who is not sure of 911, the pictures of the Mock plane crash site in Shanksville also known as the "Flight 93" crash site shows no plane crash.

So in conclusion.....

No plane crashed in Shanksville.


And yet you can't prove it's all been faked. You can't prove that the 1000s of people involved or all lying and/or wrong. .



The beauty of it all is WE dont have to prove nothing. HA HA HA

It speaks for itself.

Your the one snoopy that is having a hard time understading this material and I recommend some basic sites for you to explore before you come to my threads and share your insulting and poorly researched defense for a OFFICIALLY PROVEN FRAUDULANT official story.

Thats ok. We all know that NO PLANE CRASHED in shanksville on 911 and WTC 7 was controlled demoltions.

Thanks for nothing.



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 03:16 PM
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Ivan, thank you for admitting that you are unable to back up your claim of a mock crash. Your admittance is accepted.



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by snoopy
Ivan, thank you for admitting that you are unable to back up your claim of a mock crash. Your admittance is accepted.



Yup, ignorant.

It was a mock plane crash site. Some people were involved came out and confessed, the thing is that being part of these entities forces you to an oath of secrecy. So if you want names and or the actual name of the flight 93 mock shootdown/ mock plane crash exercise... good luck, that above top secret.


here is one of thousands of examples of mock plane crashes ( I wish these kids would go back in the thread an review these previously covered topics before looking foolish)

Here is some of the Exersices www.google.ca...


Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building
By John J. Lumpkin, Associated Press

WASHINGTON — In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism -- it was to be a simulated accident.

Officials at the Chantilly, Va.-based National Reconnaissance Office had scheduled an exercise that morning in which a small corporate jet would crash into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure.

The agency is about four miles from the runways of Washington Dulles International Airport.

Agency chiefs came up with the scenario to test employees' ability to respond to a disaster, said spokesman Art Haubold. No actual plane was to be involved -- to simulate the damage from the crash, some stairwells and exits were to be closed off, forcing employees to find other ways to evacuate the building.

"It was just an incredible coincidence that this happened to involve an aircraft crashing into our facility," Haubold said. "As soon as the real world events began, we canceled the exercise."

Terrorism was to play no role in the exercise, which had been planned for several months, he said.

Adding to the coincidence, American Airlines Flight 77 -- the Boeing 767 that was hijacked and crashed into the Pentagon -- took off from Dulles at 8:10 a.m. on Sept. 11, 50 minutes before the exercise was to begin. It struck the Pentagon around 9:40 a.m., killing 64 aboard the plane and 125 on the ground.
boston.com...



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 03:34 PM
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Here is more examples of Fake Mock plane crash exercises required by the FAA every year or so.


Terrorist Incident Response Exercise
Simulate Airplane Crash of Terrorist Hijacked Plane
PART I - Moffett Fire Response to Airplane Crash Exercise
The exercise simulated a hijacked dual engine aircraft crashing into a "concrete building" at NASA Ames Research Center. The exercise included three victims in the building and one live victim in the plane.



Disaster Drill - Plane Crash "Scheduled" at Chattanooga Airport
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Richard Simms
March 24, 2008 - 1:31PM
Del.icio.us | Digg | Print Story | E-Mail Story | Font Size You can expect to see some unusual "emergency responders activity" in and around the Chattanooga Metropolitan Airport Tuesday.

The Chattanooga Metropolitan Airport Authority, in conjunction with local emergency response agencies, will be conducting a full-scale exercise on Tuesday, March 25, 2008, beginning around 10:00 a.m.

In the exercise scenario, a plane carrying approximately 150 passengers crashes shortly after taking off the runway at Lovell Field. The simulated crash site will be located a short distance from the runway. Roughly 30-40 volunteer "victims" will be scattered around the wreckage site. The responding agencies expected to be involved include the airport's fire department, Chattanooga Fire Department, Chattanooga Police Department, Hamilton County Emergency Services, Chattanooga-Hamilton County Rescue and Volunteer State Water Rescue.

Of course you can expect complete coverage of the exercise on www.NewsChannel9.com and beginning on NewsChannel 9 Midday.

www.newschannel9.com...



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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Dont forget


It was just an incredible coincidence that this happened to involve an aircraft crashing into our facility," Haubold said. "As soon as the real world events began, we canceled the exercise."

Terrorism was to play no role in the exercise, which had been planned for several months, he said.
boston.com...

[edit on 8-4-2008 by IvanZana]



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 03:41 PM
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snoopy, you've got a u2u. Look up in your tool bar, it's red. That's a private message.



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 03:44 PM
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Ivan, you have posted plenty of material, and the truth seems fairly obvious. You don't have to prove one-hundred percent exactly what did happen, to know without a doubt what did not happen. This is why it is so important to have a new invstigation.

Knowing full well that the official story is wrong, we must now uncover what the accurate version of events actually is. The people who were in charge of the investigation, and charged with bringing us the truth have failed to do so, that much is obvious. Whatever the truth is, it seems clear to me what it is not, no matter how much certain people try to riducule you without bringing any evidence of their own. Instead they parrot the official hoax as gospel, as if any of us still believe that bunk anymore.

Keep up the good work Ivan. Even if you get something wrong, at least you're bothering to ask the tough questions that even our own government dare not ask.



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by snoopy
 


snoopy, you've got a u2u. Look up in your tool bar, it's red. That's a private message.



There are no u2us from you.



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by IvanZana
Here is more examples of Fake Mock plane crash exercises required by the FAA every year or so.


Terrorist Incident Response Exercise
Simulate Airplane Crash of Terrorist Hijacked Plane
PART I - Moffett Fire Response to Airplane Crash Exercise
The exercise simulated a hijacked dual engine aircraft crashing into a "concrete building" at NASA Ames Research Center. The exercise included three victims in the building and one live victim in the plane.



Disaster Drill - Plane Crash "Scheduled" at Chattanooga Airport
Comments | Recommend
Richard Simms
March 24, 2008 - 1:31PM
Del.icio.us | Digg | Print Story | E-Mail Story | Font Size You can expect to see some unusual "emergency responders activity" in and around the Chattanooga Metropolitan Airport Tuesday.

The Chattanooga Metropolitan Airport Authority, in conjunction with local emergency response agencies, will be conducting a full-scale exercise on Tuesday, March 25, 2008, beginning around 10:00 a.m.

In the exercise scenario, a plane carrying approximately 150 passengers crashes shortly after taking off the runway at Lovell Field. The simulated crash site will be located a short distance from the runway. Roughly 30-40 volunteer "victims" will be scattered around the wreckage site. The responding agencies expected to be involved include the airport's fire department, Chattanooga Fire Department, Chattanooga Police Department, Hamilton County Emergency Services, Chattanooga-Hamilton County Rescue and Volunteer State Water Rescue.

Of course you can expect complete coverage of the exercise on www.NewsChannel9.com and beginning on NewsChannel 9 Midday.

www.newschannel9.com...






These are not mock plane crashes. They are drills.



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by jackinthebox
Ivan, you have posted plenty of material, and the truth seems fairly obvious. You don't have to prove one-hundred percent exactly what did happen, to know without a doubt what did not happen. This is why it is so important to have a new invstigation.

Knowing full well that the official story is wrong, we must now uncover what the accurate version of events actually is. The people who were in charge of the investigation, and charged with bringing us the truth have failed to do so, that much is obvious. Whatever the truth is, it seems clear to me what it is not, no matter how much certain people try to riducule you without bringing any evidence of their own. Instead they parrot the official hoax as gospel, as if any of us still believe that bunk anymore.



Thank you very much. Good work on your part aswell.

Its so easy to tell the truth and usually needs little explaining.

These liars have to call everyone kids and try to emotionalize, goad, derail, obsefucate and annoy to attempt to spread a baseless conspiracy.



posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by snoopy

These are not mock plane crashes. They are drills.



Bang on DUDE! You get a prize.

The Flight 93 and the Shanksville Crash site was originally scheaduled to be a simulated shootdown/crash simulation DRILL which was part of the war games exercise drills on September 11th,2001.


SEE HERE ----->USA Today Front Page: NORAD had Pre-9/11 DRILLS of Hijacked Jets ...

Thanks for proving my point.


And here is another hundred sourcers pertaining to the 9/11 Wargame drills used as cover to allow the attack to happen.
www.google.ca...


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posted on Apr, 8 2008 @ 11:10 PM
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The heroes on Flight 93, they are a smoking gun for the ability of people to figure out 9/11 in minutes, compared to people who are unable to figure out 9/11 given 6 years. The passengers on Flight 93 figured out 9/11 in minutes and took ACTION, yet many people try to float hearsay and false information on 9/11 and Flight 93, can not find a single fact or present rational evidence to support their ideas given 6 years. Why is that?

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posted on Apr, 9 2008 @ 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by beachnut
yet many people try to float hearsay and false information on 9/11 and Flight 93, can not find a single fact or present rational evidence to support their ideas given 6 years. Why is that?

[edit on 8-4-2008 by beachnut]



I agree, the whole official story about Flight 93 crashing in Shanksville and all its evidence is laughable at best.

Best dont worry, WE are fighting for the innocent people that lost their lives that day.



posted on Apr, 9 2008 @ 12:22 AM
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Triple post....


[edit on 9-4-2008 by IvanZana]



posted on Apr, 9 2008 @ 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by beachnut
yet many people try to float hearsay and false information on 9/11 and Flight 93, can not find a single fact or present rational evidence to support their ideas given 6 years. Why is that?

[edit on 8-4-2008 by beachnut]



I agree, the whole official story about Flight 93 crashing in Shanksville and all its evidence is laughable at best.

Best dont worry, WE are fighting for the innocent people that lost their lives that day.



posted on Apr, 9 2008 @ 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by IvanZana

Originally posted by beachnut
yet many people try to float hearsay and false information on 9/11 and Flight 93, can not find a single fact or present rational evidence to support their ideas given 6 years. Why is that?

[edit on 8-4-2008 by beachnut]



I agree, the whole official story about Flight 93 crashing in Shanksville and all its evidence is laughable at best.

Best dont worry, WE are fighting for the innocent people that lost their lives that day.
Not one thing mentioned to date by 9/11 truth makes the evidence that 93 impacted in PA go away. Take some action. Every year the USAF produces aircraft accident investigators. There are thousands of us! Find 100 and vote on it. It still will not make the evidence go away and the fantasy of no 93 in PA will not turn true, but you may get some expert testimony why 9/11 truth is wrong when they make up talk without supporting evidence. Take some action. P4t have a few guys who say they have been on accident investigation boards, not sure what they did but that is not enough it seems, because they have only produces some questions, no evidence yet. Where is the evidence hiding, so far everything I have seen from9/11 truth and here on 93 not impacting in PA is not close to being evidence. Why? Where is the real stuff, the sound analytical knowledgeable insight and critique to produce some evidence for what has become after 6 years a fantasy.

Where is the piles of evidence so 9/11 truth can prove 93 never impacted in PA. Gee, you have not even properly debunked the FDR which matches witness statements (if you understand what they are saying) and was found in the ground in PA. Please do not say the FDR has been proven fake, you have no evidence. No study, no paper, nothing. Why? It gets tiring to hear the FDR is fake, it was proven, and then you can search until the next millennium and not find that paper, the study that proves that statement. Just saying it does not make it so. 9/11 truth had not proven anything about 93 not impacting in PA. Don't even say you can't prove a negative or something, that is used in religion or UFO, and bigfoot. Here we have an impact exactly like an impact looks like if you have experience (there are aircraft investigation schools, if 9/11 truth sends some people they can learn their movement has made it all up).

I recommend 9/11 truth groups take some money from DVD sales and donations and send a few people to accident investigation school so at least the made up stuff can add some technically sounding correct stuff to fool some who have experience (until they check it out). But the truth is, after they finish, they will no longer be in 9/11 truth. Now if you send about 2000, maybe one person will still waive knowledge of what he has learned to stay in 9/11 truth.

With all that evidence 9/11 truth claims it has to prove just the point you are trying to make, you could get a Pulitzer Prize. Action.



posted on Apr, 9 2008 @ 02:10 AM
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Oh you mean the one stated by Mike White mayor of Cleveland having landed at Hopkins International airport. Ya, that one. Then being denied. Another nail in the clean coffin of 911 official lovers. By the way he's now an alpacha keeper in a nice abode in Bath township.

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posted on Apr, 9 2008 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by thedman
The fuel cloud would ignite in impressive fireball. The cloud
would burn in a upward direction with little heat transfer to the ground


Yes it would...

Shanksville "Fireball"

Burning Airplane...

Jet Fuel Plume...

Same size plane... "Fireball"

I find it amazing how those that can't accept 'something is wrong' with the official story ignore all laws of physics and come up with "vaporizing aircraft" to explain things...

Well its okay because as soon as the government need more funds... something bigger will happen and all this will be swept under the table...

Maybe in 50 years when the 'perps' are all gone we will get the truth... I said maybe... we still don't have the answers to Kennedy

:shk:
This is big stuff! Did you receive an award for journalism for this. If this proves the fireball cloud was not from a jet, you have the Pulitzer Prize in the bag?

You have the hard evidence, who have you presented this smoking gun to? How many news agencies will be breaking this? What is your next step to get the awards and prove this to others if the news agencies fail to take action? When will it break into the headlines? The Leno show? The Daily show? Cool.



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