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Originally posted by OrionStars
reply to post by ULTIMA1
Excellent point. Considering DNA testing for positive ID was in its infancy then, and just beginning to be accepted by more courts across the nation.
It was not until the very late 90s, the human and other genome projects were actually getting recognition as being a valid source of positive ID of human beings. .......
The first officer said, "Oh, God," - the altitude decreased rapidly; the indicated airspeed increased to over 200 knots; and the normal acceleration increased to over 4g."
"There was no damage to structures on the ground. Trees adjacent to the impact crater were damaged by flying debris and soot, and nearby patches of grass north and northeast of the crater were scorched. The size of the impact crater measured approximately 39 feet by 24 feet and was about 15 feet deep.
Source: "Why This Failure..." Time Magazine, March 28, 1960
The plane and its final explosion blew out a smoldering crater 50 ft. wide and 25 ft. deep. Civil Aeronautics Board crash specialists found empty, neatly laced shoes, a stray airmail letter, a bloodstained blouse, a prayer book lying open at the Litany of the Saints ("Lord have mercy on us...").
There is a crater--it appears to be quite deep...perhaps 35 feet deep. There is thick smoke. I can barely make out the twisted wreckage of a large aircraft. The plane appears to have slammed itself nose first into the ground. I don't see how anyone could possibly have survived this kind of impact. As I look around in the snow I see slivers of silver/green metal, spilled fuel, and debris. I see no bodies...only indistinguishable remnants of human remains. Here is the largest identifiable piece of humanity: a part of a backbone that is still connected to a kidney. These people...these poor people. What must have happened? How long must they have known their inescapable fate? The wing and engine we first found must have been 3 or 4 miles away. I've never seen anything like this before...
...For days the Graves and Registration Troops continued to sift through the 4 or 5 acres of the wreckage, often mistaking pieces of pink airplane insulation for frozen pieces of human flesh. The smell of charred bodies, once frozen--then thawed--remains with me today. I came home from the crash site that first night and threw away my clothes. We reported the story to ABC, CBS, NBC, Canada and Mexico. A Two-inch communication cable was laid by Bell Telephone all the way from Cannelton to the crash site. Ultimately 8 or 9 coffins were provided to hold the recovered human remains of the 63 passengers and 6 crew members. All were buried in Greenwood Cemetery, but, in truth, only 2 of them actually held any contents at all. The other 6 were empty--symbolic gestures of grief.
In the crater, buried twelve feet under this smoking cauldron, was what was left of Northwest Airlines flight 710 - and the 33 men, 21 woman and 8 children and 1 infant aboard.
"Such was the complete destruction of the aircraft that it made the job of the Accidents Investigation Branch a difficult one and all the wreckage recovered was taken back to Samlesbury and laid out in a Hanger for detailed inspection."
Sledzik and Barbian, physical anthropologists on staff of the NMHM/AFIP, oversee a collection of human medical and pathological specimens. They provide forensic anthropology consultation to several local and federal agencies and teach an annual AFIP course in forensic anthropology.
"The methods of interpreting the biological aspects of the human skeleton are similar, whether you are looking at a Civil War soldier or a recent disaster victim," said Barbian.
"The museum is proud to support this work as a service to the nation," said Dr. Adrianne Noe, museum director. "Yet it is no surprise that we should be able to do so. Our efforts are an excellent example of public service, combining support for families with our unique experiences and expertise at this critical time."
DNA comparison is just one of several techniques to be used by members of the federal Disaster Mortuary Operational Response Team, which is charged with recovering and identifying the remains of Flight 93's passengers, crew members and hijackers. All 44 people who were on board died in the crash.
Teams include forensic pathologists, anthropologists, dentists, fingerprint analysts, radiologists, X-ray technicians and others with scientific skills that can be used to identify remains. Members are private citizens who have offered their skills and who are activated and paid by the federal government to assist local coroners or medical examiners when disasters occur, said Paul Sledzik, who headed the team in Stonycreek.
A forensic anthropologist, Sledzik is a world-renowned curator at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology's National Museum of Health and Medicine in Washington, D.C.
A specialist in identifying skeletal remains, Sledzik, 40, has worked as an expert in numerous murder cases. He has helped to identify bodies of soldiers killed during the Persian Gulf War as well as passengers who died in the USAir Flight 427 crash.
Originally posted by IvanZana
FUnny. All this jibber jabber does not change the fact that no plane crashed in Shanksville on Septmber 11.
Remember, no plane crashed in Shanksville.
Wow. I am totally convinced now more than ever that NO Boeing Crashed in Shanksville, on Spetmeber 11th,2001.
Originally posted by IvanZana
This picture is avoided and undebunkable.
There is no proof of a boeing 757 crashing.
The shoot down theory is proven disinformation started by the people who brought you " Missile on the WTC " Pentagon Hologram ", WTC holograms, not controlled demo, NUKES,... etc.
These people actually start the silly theories so they can easily debunk them later looking 1/2 intelligent, but thats another thread.
As you can see no fuel, no fire, no parts, NO Boeing 757 at Shanksville on 9/11
Mabey they are looking for cruise missile parts?
THE SCREAMING THING
At the horseshoe-shaped Indian Lake, about a mile east of the official crash site, several eyewitnesses recalled hearing “a screaming thing” that “screeched” as it passed over the golf course and lakeside community immediately before a huge explosion shook the ground.
Chris Smith, the groundskeeper at the golf course, said something with a “very loud screeching sound” passed over in the immediate vicinity of the golf course before he heard a huge explosion.
Cruise missile video. Look like a small white plane.
[edit on 6-1-2008 by IvanZana]
Originally posted by IvanZana
Get off the crack kid. You have proven yourself to be borderline retarded.lol
Originally posted by IvanZana I see plenty of plane parts.
FLIGHT 585 that CaptinObvius says there were no plane parts visible.
You mean the same Bil Crowley, who will say anything the Bush administration tells him to say if he wants to keep his job and benefits? That Bill Crowley?
Originally posted by CaptainObvious
reply to post by IvanZana
Ivan.. let me ask you something.... your photos show very minimal if any plane parts. I have shown you several pictures with plane debris. I could actually post more, but I feel it will be waste of my time. What I want you to do is look at this picture below. Tell me if it looks similar to the ones you posted.
Looks pretty similar to Shanksville? No not exactly... but similar.
This in fact is a plane crash. United Airlines Flight 585.