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FLIGHT 93 - The Biggest 911 Smoking Gun!

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posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:13 AM
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reply to post by CaptainObvious
 


Walter Miller has not been proved to be qualified to indentify any remains. Why do you keep telling people that same disinformation?




posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by OrionStars

Mr. Miller has not been stated to be educated in genetics or forensic science. Therefore, Mr. Miller would not know a piece of deer meat or bear meat from a human remain. For all Mr. Miller knew, which he claims he found, he could have had part of the mandible of a chimpanzee not a human remain. There is only one way to verify if remains are human when all that is found is muscle meat,


OMFG...Are you kidding? Have you done any research on Mr. Miller? Or who was working with him?

Do you know anything about DNA evidence?

Wallace Miller did not work alone. But he was in charge of the scene.

For instance:

Paul Sledzik, Curator Armed Forces Institute of Pathology National Museum of Health and Medicine
Leader of flight 93 Disaster Mortuary (Team DMORT)
Email: sledzik@email.afip.osd.mil


On Sept. 13, Paul Sledzik, curator of anatomical collections at the National Museum of Health and Medicine of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), was asked by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Service's Office of Emergency Preparedness to command the Region III Disaster Mortuary Operational Response Team (DMORT) in providing victim identification services for the UA Flight 93 crash. Sledzik has been team commander of Region III DMORT since 1997.


nmhm.washingtondc.museum...

Dr. Dennis C. Dirkmaat, Chief Scientific Advisor to Somerset County Coroner's office in the flight 93 investigation; Director, Applied Forensic Sciences Department, Mercyhurst College, 501 E. 38th St. Erie, PA 16546 Email: dirkmaat@mercyhurst.edu


Teams include forensic pathologists, anthropologists, dentists, fingerprint analysts, radiologists, X-ray technicians and others with scientific skills that can be used to identify remains. Members are private citizens who have offered their skills and who are activated and paid by the federal government to assist local coroners or medical examiners when disasters occur, said Paul Sledzik, who headed the team in Stonycreek.

A forensic anthropologist, Sledzik is a world-renowned curator at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology's National Museum of Health and Medicine in Washington, D.C.

A specialist in identifying skeletal remains, Sledzik, 40, has worked as an expert in numerous murder cases. He has helped to identify bodies of soldiers killed during the Persian Gulf War as well as passengers who died in the USAir Flight 427 crash.


www.post-gazette.com...

And Also:


The Disaster Mortuary Team

Main office: 1-800-USA-NDMS, ext. 205
DMORT Region 3 office (includes Pennsylvania) 410-676-4600


DMORT National Commander's Column
By Thomas J. Shepardson

On behalf of the victims, their families, and the many agencies that DMORT has interacted with since the terrible events of September 11, 2001, please allow me to say thank you to the members of DMORT who have given so unselfishly of their time and talents to help our country recover. Even though there is no way we will ever completely recover, your personal contribution to the recovery process has been an important asset to the country and your fellow Americans.

www.dmort.org...

Now, please someone explain to me how 600 pounds of humnan remains were found??



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by CaptainObvious
reply to post by IvanZana
 



Ivan,

1- Where did the body parts come from?

What body parts?

2- Where did the plane parts come from?

What plane parts?

3- What is inside that dumpster?

Umm garbage? Shredded scrap and paper? only about 1 ton of it too.



4- What about all the witnesses that I posted statements from?

Most of them are conflicting, confused, and or just plane rubbish...
Most of them saw a white jet (fighter) other heard a fast screaming thing. Remember, shanksville is a coverup so fake accounts will be common.


5- How come the FDR matches the witness statements?

Actually that is the biggest smoking gun, The fdr conflicts the offcial account. I would advise you to research a little but before torturing us with your fuzzy logic. Here is a video video.google.ca...


6- How come you are not answering any of my questions?

I do but they make you look stupid.



7- How come you have offered zero evidence to back you fantasy?

How come you resort to disinfo tactics in attempts to debunk this thread.

Upon very little background research on you captain, it is quite obvious what your agenda is and it is a major failure.

Like i said, nobody was convinced on Septmebr 11 that Flight 93 crashed in Shanksville Do you think you and your copy pastes will change our minds now? Thats the silly fantasy.

I guess your next tactics will be to post pictures of Tod beamer and families.



Here is your Photbucket "how to debunk conspiracy jerks" page. s193.photobucket.com...
your brilliant...lol.
C.O.
Like i said, nobody was convinced on Septmebr 11 that Flight 93 crashed in Shanksville Do you think you and your copy pastes will change our minds now? Thats the silly fantasy.


Start another wild conspiracy thread and try to prove a plane crashed in shanksville.

Good luck


[edit on 6-1-2008 by IvanZana]



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:28 AM
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Zerbot -

Most of the calls were made my AirPhones on the back of the seats. Here is a diagram of when the calls were made and the alititudes, along with a list of all the phone calls made. I hope this helps.








posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:30 AM
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Well, if that was supposed to be evidence in that trash bin, it was certainly contaminated, which renders it useless as evidence. The FBI knows better than do so something so useless.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:32 AM
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Um, all that jibber jabber in your post and what came out of it?

I am:

1: Stupid
2. Spreading Disinfo
3. And I got a link to my Photobucket page.


Trying using some logic and answer my questions like an adult.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:34 AM
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Why did Mark Bingham's name disapper from this evidence stated to be present in a court of law?

911research.wtc7.net...

911research.wtc7.net...

"Moussaoui Trial Exhibits
Low-quality reproductions of alleged passenger manifests were released on a website of Moussaoui trial exhibits in July of 2006. These include the names of the alleged hijackers. 6"



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:34 AM
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dble post


[edit on 6-1-2008 by IvanZana]



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:36 AM
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Orion,

No comment on the credentials of the examiners for the crash?

In regards to the open top container:


But a week after the FBI closed its criminal investigation at the Somerset County site, county Coroner Wallace Miller indicated that his job has switched largely from search and recovery to a cleanup of what he deems sacred ground.

"I consider this site almost like a cemetery," Miller said yesterday. "When you walk through a cemetery and you see debris, you pick it up."

Over the weekend, about 300 volunteers combed a half-mile square around the crash site and found enough debris from the Boeing 757 to fill about one-third of a trash container

www.post-gazette.com...

The Criminal investigation was over at this time.(the article is from October 3 2001)



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:38 AM
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Why are you guys moving the goal posts??

Answer my questions or at least respond to them.

Ivan... thats a 40 minute video. What Am i looking for? Please tell me where the relevant information is in regards to our conversation here this evening.

Thanks

EDIT. Orion... you cant Hot Link to that site. Please cut and paste any info you may have.

Thanks

[edit on 6-1-2008 by CaptainObvious]



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:40 AM
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35 to 41 to 0 altitude? At 0 that would be ground level at 9:37:41 am. That means they were sitting on the ground. Yet, there were more calls made after that.


"7565 call duration"?



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:43 AM
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Shanksville mayor says no plane crashed in Shanksville.www.liveleak.com...


Captain, i am going to give you the benifit of the doubt that your not a little kid in mommies basement with issues.
Here watch this vide

Google Video Link


And if you come back with your sensless, baseless, childish remarks , after viewing the video then you removed all doubt from the above statement.

[edit on 6-1-2008 by IvanZana]



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:45 AM
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Orion,

This evening I have posted an abundance of information. You have yet to comment on any of it or answered any of my questions. Yet you continue to throw more crap my way.

Are you going to tell me where all the body parts came from?



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:48 AM
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Ivan,

I'd be careful with your playground antics. I'm not one to fall for them.

This entire evening I have offered you and Orion an abundance of facts. You have yet to refute a single one of them.

If you would like me to watch part 3 of PAndoras Box , can you at least tell me where in the video I should watch? I have watched so many You Yube Crap fests, I don't want to waste another 40 minutes of my life.

I hope you understand.

Thank you



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:48 AM
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What credentials? He moonlights as a small town coroner, and his day and evening job is mortician. That does not qualify him to positively ID all body parts as human body parts, or as belonging to specific names listed on passenger lists. So far, no one has referred to him as Dr. Miller. Then it becomes doctor of what? Philosophy? Dentistry? Chemistry? Chiropractory? Doctor of what?



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:55 AM
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Orion?

Look, I understand Ivan... the dude ignores everyones post unless they agree with him. You on the other hand seem to have some common sence. HAve you read my posts? Miller was not sitting in his Hicksville office by himself. He had some of the best of the best working along side him. I posted the comany names, personnel names, contact information and their experience.

What more do you want???



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:00 AM
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Please, let us get it straight. You have offered your opinion of what you believe to be facts, but are instead "facts" (your subjective opinions).



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by OrionStars


35 to 41 to 0 altitude? At 0 that would be ground level at 9:37:41 am. That means they were sitting on the ground. Yet, there were more calls made after that.


"7565 call duration"?



In regards to Jeremy Glicks phone call:


He asked his wife not to hang up. He was going to leave the air phone off the hook while the group of passengers tried to implement their takeover. But she couldn't bear to listen and handed the phone to her father. Lyzbeth Glick's father heard rustling, a brief silence, then more rustling from the open line to the plane. Then screams followed by dead silence


www.unitedheroes.com...

EDIT TO ADD:

Just in case you would like to donate:

Jeremy Glick Memorial Fund
[Checks should reference account number 3300314192]
Silicon Valley Bank
Attention: Farrah Conanan
3003 Tasman Drive
Mailsort HF 280
Santa Clara, CA 95054

[edit on 6-1-2008 by CaptainObvious]



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:02 AM
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reply to post by OrionStars
 


No Orion,

I have stated FACTS... supported by evidence. What you and Ivan have added were opinions.

Please show me one thing I have posted that is not accurate.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:02 AM
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Physical evidence as also examined and tested by independent peer professionals, of those "sitting along side" Mr. Walter Miller. Can you provide that?



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