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Originally posted by OrionStars
I agree. The figure was absurd.
As for jetliner engines, they do not bounce, roll, or work upward and outward against gravity. At high velocity inpact, the engine housings made of graphite would be severely compromised, as would the parts in the engines. So what explosive force (foot pounds of thrust) could force two jetliner engines to land so far away from an alleged jetliner crash, as you keep asserting?
What are the exact laws of physics that tell you it is possible for two engines, at the weight range you guessed, to land 900' (300 yards) from any alleged crash scene? Where exactly were they both alleged to be located? What physical evidence proves they landed where you assert distance landed?
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As you can see Rollock is over the hill from the crash site. almost 1km away.
I find it completely improbable someone could locate a small recorder but can find no physical evidence of the massive part that housed it.
Originally posted by Boone 870
Purbaugh, worked at Rollock Inc., a scrap yard next to the crash area.
He also was the only person to "see the last seconds of Flight 93" as it came down on the former strip-mining land at reportedly 10.06am- and he recognised another "white jet".
Lee Purbaugh, 32, working just his second day at Rollock Inc., a scrap yard next to the reclaimed strip-mine land, looked up from operating a burning torch to see the jetliner just 40 feet above him.
"I heard this real loud noise coming over my head," he told the Daily Mirror. "I looked up and it was Flight 93, barely 50ft above me. It was coming down in a 45 degree and rocking from side to side. Then the nose suddenly dipped and it just crashed into the ground. There was this big fireball and then a huge cloud of smoke."
According to the NTSB the plane was upside down.
This guys credibility is muck.
According to Independent UK, Purbaugh, served three years in the US Navy.
Intersting enough ..... "According to Independent UK, Purbaugh, served three years in the US Navy.
So "Lee" spends 3 years in the US navy and leaves to work at rollock scarp yard in Shanksville. On his second day at work, 2 hours in, he became that last person to "SEE" flight 93 and he said it was comming down 40 feet above him at a 45 degree angle wonbbling left to right before having his nose"dip" in the ground.
But it doesnt matter what she or he said for there was no plane crash in Shanksvillle on 9/11.
No plane there. Nothing. No Fire, No parts, nothing that you can tell a plane crashed there
A quick question for you. If there was a giant government conspiracy to fake a commercial airliner crash, why didn't they manufacture the crash scene in a more isolated place where there were no witnesses?
Blair, of Stoystown, a driver with Jim Barron Trucking of Somerset, was traveling in a coal truck along with Doug Miller of Somerset, when they saw the plane spiraling to the ground and then explode on the outskirts of Lambertsville.
“I saw the plane flying upside down overhead and crash into the nearby trees. My buddy, Doug, and I grabbed our fire extinguishers and ran to the scene,” said Blair.
"It was low enough, I thought you could probably count the rivets. You could see more of the roof of the plane than you could the belly. It was on its side. There was a great explosion and you could see the flames. It was a massive, massive explosion. Flames and then smoke and then a massive, massive mushroom cloud."
Then Peterson said he saw a fireball, heard an explosion and saw a mushroom cloud of smoke rise into the sky.
Peterson rushed to the scene on an all-terrain vehicle and when he arrived he saw bits and pieces of an airliner spread over a large area of an abandoned strip-mine in Stonycreek Township.
"There was a crater in the ground that was really burning," Peterson said. Strewn about were pieces of clothing hanging from trees and parts of the Boeing 757, but nothing bigger than a couple of feet long, he said. Many of the items were burning.
The ensuing firestorm lasted five or 10 minutes and reached several hundred yards into the sky, said Joe Wilt, 63, who also lives a quarter-mile from the crash site.
Rob Kimmel, several miles from the crash site: He sees it fly overhead, banking hard to the right. It is 200 feet or less off the ground as it crests a hill to the southeast. "I saw the top of the plane, not the bottom."
Terry Butler "It dropped out of the clouds." The plane rose slightly, trying to gain altitude, then "it just went flip to the right and then straight down."
Lee Purbaugh, 300 yards away: "There was an incredibly loud rumbling sound and there it was, right there, right above my head – maybe 50 feet up.... I saw it rock from side to side then, suddenly, it dipped and dived, nose first, with a huge explosion, into the ground. I knew immediately that no one could possibly have survived."
Fox stepped over a seat back. He saw a wiring harness, and a piston. None of the other pieces was bigger than a TV remote.
He saw three chunks of torn human tissue. He swallowed hard.
"You knew there were people there, but you couldn't see them," he says, home now, the kids playing in the background. "You try not to let it sink into you too much."
He'd assumed it was an accident. A Cessna, maybe. A spark in the fuel tank. A stuck rudder. He didn't connect it to the other planes, still crashing on cable TV.
Local FBI agent Wells Morrison told author Glenn Kashurba what he saw when he arrived at the crash site: "We arrived in the immediate area and walked up to the crater and the burning woods. My first thought was, 'Where is the plane?' Because most of what I saw was this honeycomb looking stuff, which I believe is insulation or something like that. I was not seeing anything that was distinguishable either as human remains or aircraft debris."
...Miller was familiar with scenes of sudden and violent death, although none quite like this. Walking in his gumboots, the only recognisable body part he saw was a piece of spinal cord, with five vertebrae attached.
Miller said he had identified 12 of the victims through dental records and fingerprints. He is refusing to release the names of those victims, saying he does not want to upset their families.