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Originally posted by Nickdfresh
""2. When you arrived at the crash site who else was there?""
I didn't arrive, I was there to begin with.
""7. Did you touch any piece of wreckage?""
Well, since it was about a mile away and extremely hot, no, no I didn't...
""10. How long after the crash did your arrive at the crash site?""
I didn't, since I wasn't allowed...
Originally posted by OrionStars
One, of many of the aspects I find utterly amazing, is that a plane is alleged to have crashed there, and what appears to be a wood frame building, so close to an alleged aircraft crash, did not appear to have one iota of damage...
Originally posted by IvanZana
I am GLAD you all agree no plane crashed in SHANKSVILLE.
The biggest smoking gun.
The debate on whether a plane crashed in Shanksville is a shut case. I will provide this pic one more time with a question.
Where the photographer is standing is where the fuel ladened wing, engine, and fuselage is said to have crashed.
Do you notice the wing scars?
Do you notice no wings? parts? fuel? fire?
Do you notice the grass is not even broken where the wings are said to have "penetrated the ground"?
Do notice there is no plane crash there.
The old methods of 911 confusion and hypnotization are over friends. Welcome to the new year of truth.
"Numerous types of civilian and military aircraft were used as mock hijacked aircraft," the statement said. "These exercises tested track detection and identification; scramble and interception; hijack procedures; internal and external agency coordination and operational security and communications security procedures."
It was not hit with a missle. It was hit by a 30mm gun. The planes did not have ATA weapons at the time.
This would fit how people saw it rolling over and that there was a debris field miles wide.
There is no yada yada about it. There was a plane. There were real people. They died. This is the coverup that the government does not want to release. Why do you think they made that movie so quick for release?
You do agree though that it had no ATA weaponry though. I mean, you beleive that there were holograms in NY, a missle hit the Pentagon I am sure and now there is no plane in Shanksville.
The FDR, that you refer too, I find funny since this is one of the only official things you take for truth since it fits your arguement.
Can you please, in your expertise, even if you don't beleive there was a plane, would the plane have rotated to be upside down if there was damage caused by an F-16 hitting it with it's cannon on one of the wings or engines???.
There was an engine found quite a ways away from the crash site, remember?
WIth your expertise you should be able to yes or no it, I mean, if it lost an engine, would it not suddenly be lighter on one side and harder to control?
Also, the Russians bought down a flight in 83, a Korean(?) airliner I think it was and the plane was not destroyed mid air, so it was a matter of making it look like a crash with cannot fire. There was debris 8 miles from the crash site.
If a 757 was traveling at 580mp, would there not be some indication of that on the FAA control center radar screen, even with the transponders shut off?
I did research top and cruise speed for the 757. It said cruise speed is 500 mph and top speed is 607 mph. At 580 mph, doesn't that start to compromise the integrity of the plane structure, particularly the lower toward sea level commercial jetliners are flying?
I am only asking because I see various comments thrown around without proof any such comments are valid. Nor any explanations as to what position (horizontally or vertically) an airplane happens to be travelling at some unsupported stated speed.
Was I correct when I stated if the mics are left on in the cockpit back to the control centers, that the control centers have the same recordings as the "black boxes" on the planes?
Originally posted by OrionStars
reply to post by Nickdfresh
Then you will have to explain how to prove a double negative, when no one else throughout history has ever been able to prove a double negative. Therefore, I have no idea how to go about doing that? Do you?...
If you search the archives and find the story, it will give you the reporter's name. I do not have a hobby keeping stats on which reporters write which news articles...