posted by ThroatYogurt
First off:

Jeremy Glick's Phone Call At 9:37:41 lasts until 11:43:49am.

Todd Beamer's Phone Call At 9:43:48 lasts until 10:49:29am.

I do not work for GTE Airfone. Perhaps during your extensive research and investigations you can reach out to them. I have no idea how that system worked, or why those two calls somehow remained billing post impact.

Flight 93 allegedly crashed into the ground at 10:03.

I can think of a good reason why Jeremy Glick's phone call lasted until 11:43:49. (One hour and 40 minutes and 49 seconds after he was supposed to be dead and the phone destroyed) Jeremy Glick and the telephone were not on Flight 93 and some idiot 9-11 perp really screwed up.

I can also think of a good reason why Todd Beamer's phone call lasted until 10:49:29. (46 minutes and 29 seconds after he was supposed to be dead and the phone destroyed) Todd Beamer and the telephone were not on Flight 93 and some idiot 9-11 perp really screwed up.

Does that help you make up your mind?

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt


Try posting your theory that I have asked for at least three times now.

Throatyogurt, not only your posts insulting they are downright disrespectful to the victims and the families of 911. You laugh in their face as they cry over the pictures of their lost loved ones, while seeking a proper investigation.

Once again. This thread has provided evidence that Flight 93 did not crash in Shanksville while you have failed even to regurgitate the official narrative properly which also fails to prove a plane crashed in Shanksville.

Originally posted by IvanZana

Throatyogurt, not only your posts insulting they are downright disrespectful to the victims and the families of 911. You laugh in their face as they cry over the pictures of their lost loved ones, while seeking a proper investigation.

Once again. This thread has provided evidence that Flight 93 did not crash in Shanksville while you have failed even to regurgitate the official narrative properly which also fails to prove a plane crashed in Shanksville.

Ivan,

Before you sling accusations lets get this 125 page thread straight:

1. You have failed to show where I insult ANY of the victims families.
2. You have failed to show where I am disrespectful.
3. You have failed to show wher I laugh in their face.
4. You have failed to show what victims family members from flight 93 are currently seeking a "proper investigation."
5. You have failed to dispute ANY of the evidence that I have presented.
6. You have failed to show ONE crash scene investigator to agree with your statement that "ALL EXPERTS AGREE THAT NO PLANE CRASHED IN SHANKSVILLE"
7. You have failed to show any evidence that the phone calls were faked.
8. You have failed to show that the FDR recovered in Shanksville is fraudulent.
9. You have failed to show that the CVR recovered in Shanksville is fraudulent.
10. You have failed to show that any of the DNA evidence recovered is fraudulent.

So, after 125 pages Ivan You have failed.

[edit on 11/2/0808 by ThroatYogurt]

Thank you.

After page 2 it was evident that no plane crashed in Shanksville, we all agree with this.


This thread has so many pages not because there was an argument of facts, there was just children getting irritated for being shown how false and debunked the official strory is.


Your ad-hominen attacks and strawman arguments have failed to change anyone's minds let alone the desired effect of changing the subject and pointing the finger at the poster. This will not stand at ATS any longer.

Flight 93 did not crash in Shanksville on 911. Saying it isnt so 150 pages later without evidence does nothing for your credibility or the justice the victims of 911 seek.



[edit on 2-11-2008 by IvanZana]

Originally posted by IvanZana
Your ad-hominen attacks and strawman arguments have failed to change anyone's minds let alone the desired effect of changing the subject and pointing the finger at the poster. This will not stand at ATS any longer.

Ivan..telling you that you have failed in your posts is not attacking you. I am attacking your posts where you have failed and in some cases out right posted disingenuous statements. This has been proven.

Flight 93 did not crash in Shanksville on 911. Saying it isnt so 150 pages later without evidence does nothing for your credibility or the justice the victims of 911 seek.

I have shown quite a bit of evidence. You ignore it. Just like you ignored the 10 points about where you failed. It's what you do.... You Cut... you paste... you ignore.





[edit on 2-11-2008 by IvanZana]

It is possible that you have an older computer running on dial up which forbids you to view video evidence or colorful webpages which provides all the proof that the official story is BUNK?


The FBI even admitted that they did not have any evidence to support ossama had anything to do with 911.

Official story is debunked. If it were a bucket it would hold no water.



Btw, there is lots of evidence that Santa exsits, doesnt make it so.

[edit on 2-11-2008 by IvanZana]

Originally posted by IvanZana
It is possible that you have an older computer running on dial up which forbids you to view video evidence or colorful webpages which provides all the proof that the official story is BUNK?

First of all, I am on a DELL Latitude/D820. My ISP is Verizon FIOS.

So, watching video's on colorful pages is what makes something the truth?

Btw, there is lots of evidence that Santa exsits, doesnt make it so.

Yeah, that was brilliant Ivan.

When will you be addressing your 10 points of failure I pointed out to you?

Originally posted by Domenick DiMaggio




1) gordon felt is keeping his mouth shut about his brothers phone call to westmoreland county 911 and should be ashamed of himself.

I thought it was a gag order? Why should he be ashamed of himself? Because he won't talk to people with conspiracies?

2) there is no evidence that todd beamer is still alive only that he didn't die at 10:06am on 9/11.

So, the government you are saying, while shipping off Todd somewhere to be killed, deprogrammed, etc etc... they forgot to tell him not to use his cell phone?

3) why should i call mary? she actually walked up to me at the memorial once and hugged me and thanked me for "all that i am doing". it freaked me out. i believe she must have me confused with someone else. it blew everyone's mind that was with me that day. it was definitely odd to say the least.

I agree with you here. If she knew what you are doing, i would have to assume she would have spat in your face.

my theory is the government is lying. i have proven that. it is time now for a new investigation.

No you haven't.

And I can assure you there wont be another one.

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt

Originally posted by Domenick DiMaggio
1) gordon felt is keeping his mouth shut about his brothers phone call to westmoreland county 911 and should be ashamed of himself.

I thought it was a gag order? Why should he be ashamed of himself? Because he won't talk to people with conspiracies?

i do not know gordon felt has been gagged. and personally no gag order on this planet would keep me from telling the truth about a family members death. and in all honestly neither of us have spoken with either man in their lives to know if they were the inseperable type of brothers or brothers who hated each other.

2) there is no evidence that todd beamer is still alive only that he didn't die at 10:06am on 9/11.

So, the government you are saying, while shipping off Todd somewhere to be killed, deprogrammed, etc etc... they forgot to tell him not to use his cell phone?

i think his cell phone calls were intended more to tip someone off that he was still alive. the duration of each one is very very short. like someone who didn't want to get caught but wanted someone else to know 'hey im still here'. you should look at the evidence and then apply critical thinking skills before asking me to do so for you.

3) why should i call mary? she actually walked up to me at the memorial once and hugged me and thanked me for "all that i am doing". it freaked me out. i believe she must have me confused with someone else. it blew everyone's mind that was with me that day. it was definitely odd to say the least.

I agree with you here. If she knew what you are doing, i would have to assume she would have spat in your face.

really?

you think family members would spit on my face for tracking down eyewitnesses to 9/11 and asking them about it on film and then releasing it complete uncut and unedited?

my theory is the government is lying. i have proven that. it is time now for a new investigation.

No you haven't.

And I can assure you there wont be another one.

yes i have.

what were the 2 white planes at the crash site at the time of the explosion?

viola saylor, susan mcelwain, rick chaney, and others say neither of them was a corporate jet.

so please don't bring some pop mechs douche bag who wasnt there to tell me otherwise.

Originally posted by Domenick DiMaggio


i do not know gordon felt has been gagged.

Yet you stated this:

"wally miller = allowed to talk
shaw / cramer = not allowed to talk "

What do you mean by that ?

i think his cell phone calls were intended more to tip someone off that he was still alive. the duration of each one is very very short. like someone who didn't want to get caught but wanted someone else to know 'hey im still here'. you should look at the evidence and then apply critical thinking skills before asking me to do so for you.

critical thinking skills??? ME??? Your asking ME to apply them? Yet you are here thinking the government while planning this massive conspiracy ..some how FORGOT to take Todd's phone away from him???

really?

you think family members would spit on my face for tracking down eyewitnesses to 9/11 and asking them about it on film and then releasing it complete uncut and unedited?

No...but if you tell her that the DNA she buried, the personal belongings, HIS voice... were ALL faked..without a shred of evidence....I'd expect a pretty big lewy.

yes i have.

what were the 2 white planes at the crash site at the time of the explosion?

viola saylor, susan mcelwain, rick chaney, and others say neither of them was a corporate jet.

We all know witness statements are not always accurate and should be used WITH other physical evidence.

so please don't bring some pop mechs douche bag who wasnt there to tell me otherwise.

ouch... I wasn't even considering them.

Please present the witnesses to your shoot down theory and we can start the debate.