CIA Torture Jet wrecks with 4 Tons of COCAINE

CIA Torture Jet wrecks with 4 Tons of COCAINE

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[edit on 14-12-2007 by goosdawg]

Not a word about this in the MSM.

Hmmm, wonder why?

Let's torture someone connected to this in the CIA and find out.



www.dailykos.com
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[edit on 14-12-2007 by goosdawg]

Ya made me chuckle with that "Let's torture a CIA agent..." quip. Good one.

Why don't we hear about this in the MSM? It's definately worthy of coverage. I believe every word of it too. My brother wound up fixing CIA planes in the 80's (in Kansas) and came across drugs a few times. They were after him for a while and because of all this he now lives in Germany where he has for the last 20 years. But that's neither here nor there.

The crux of the matter is that the CIA is bad. Period. I haven't heard nearly enough to warrent the vast powers they have to torture, kill, etc. I've heard a lot more about their drug connections all over the world than any sincere report that they're gathering intellegence for my U.S. Government.

Grrrr.
Cuhail

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I'm glad it crashed. I hope they all run out of fuel and crash. It's crazy that that stuff gets into the USA and then creates an industry based on drug related crimes, prisons, and law enforcement. It's sickening.

Just more evidence that the war on drugs is a complete sham, and the only reason for keeping any of it illegal is that they make more money this way! They make money selling it to you, and then again when they bust you for having it!! This is freakin' ridiculous, and someone needs to put a stop to governmental agents and agencies thinking they are above the law! Arrrggg, it just makes me so mad that they continue to get away with this kind of activity because it's NOT reported in the MSM, and most Americans are completely clueless as to what is going on!

Black money for Black Ops, simple as that.

They answer to no one but their global elite masters, who also, not so coincidentally, profit the most from the drug trade.

CIA, acronym for Corrupt Imperialist Aggressors



[edit on 14-12-2007 by goosdawg]

Maybe I missed the info in the article but how do they tie this particular plane to the CIA? Here is the registration info:

For our own background information, here's what the FAA has on the aircraft.

I find the owner rather interesting -- Donna Blue Aircraft out of Broward Florida. Must do some checking on that outfit.

And alas, here is Donna Blue's seemingly amateurish corporate web site.

It's interesting to note their own words here:



Niiiiiice...this gets even better. Check out this preliminary NST report:

Plane was being chased by Mexican military. It appears to have been a forced wreck. Tell me, are CIA spooks trained to crash planes and survive? This isn't a skeptical question, but one that may shed light on this situation and corroborate the CIA connection.

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What is even more sickening is that the stuff is being brought into the country by agents of the government. Perhaps they are rogue agents, using their position and power to their own benefits. But from the crack craze in the 80s, up until now, there have been way too many connections between the CIA and supposedly illegal 'drugs'.

I am of the opinion more and more that the 'War on Drugs' is actually the "Price Inflation of Drugs', and that we spend millions of dollars each year 'fighting' these problems out of our taxes, at the same time paying the salary and retirement benefits for these CIA agents who are running drugs illicitly. So in effect, American society is paying for the privilege of paying more for their illicit drugs. It is asinine.

It is almost like it it is set up for certain 'elements' to be able to acquire tax free income, and are protected in their actions. The drugs being 'illegal' allows the government to 'franchise' their operations by incarcerating those who do not play by their rules. They make the rules, and enforce them, it is at their discretion who to actually arrest and prosecute. This 'investigation' will not go very far.

I have more to say on the topic of the War on Drugs, but out of respect for the TOS, I will not strike that match.
DocMoreau

I am glad people are beginning to see what has been obvious for a long time.

This issue is a no brainer and it is maddening.

Particularly the way they "fight" the very "wars" they perpetuate.

Okay, I found something interesting:

This is the company filing with the Florida Secretary of State. Remember when that badly created Web site stated that the company has been around for 20 years?

Notice the inception date (filing date) of this business. 2007? I may be bad at math, but me thinks that don't add up to 20 years of business...

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Wow, that Donna Blue site is truly laughable.
Interesting that the site lists its location in Menlo Park, CA,
but the FAA has the registered owner in Coconut Creek, FL.

I live in Broward, not very close to Coconut Creek, but close
enough to where I might be willing to do some ATS footwork.

And just for giggles, this is straight from the Donna Blue site:

Yeah, I heard that stuff is pretty addictive, I would imagine their to be many repeat customers!

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Notice they name countries that would cover for both drug activity (central and south america) and the rendition program (Europe).

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Nice links, behindthescenes.

Donna Blue Aircraft! What a joke of a website!

Here's a quote from the "Testimonials":



"John Doe"!!!

Their contact address goes to the web host in Menlo Park, CA

And from their "About Us" page:



Looks like they didn't deliver, this time!

I found some more interesting details on this page.

This just keeps getting better and better.

The McKlatchy News organization did a big story on this. Apparently the drugs were bound for Mexico's most notorious and powerful drug lord.

There are also more bits of information that can keep us ATSers on the net all night researching the byzantian network invovled with this plane. I'll keep updating as I find more.

Okay, I may have a theory beginning to percolate.

THis is based on doing the records searches I've posted thus far.

Okay, the company registered -- Donna Blue Air -- has two principals; Joao Manlogo and a Eduardo Guimaraes

I really haven't found much on the first gentleman, but the second, I may have hit on something that may help formulate a thesis of how the CIA is involved.



Okay, so, if this is the same Guimaraes, and we know from an independent news story that he was a Brazilian "business man," then there's a real case to be made that Eduardo sold his soul to the CIA to get out of this $1.6 billion income tax dodge. In short, the CIA came to him and said, "Work with us, big boy, and you won't have to pay a dime or do a single hour of federal pen time for your transgressions."

The two men are providing a very good cover for the CIA's aircraft activities and it allows them to plausibly deny any involvement.

not really suprised....the 'agency' is dirty as hell.

bring the drugs in and drop em on the black market. make a mint. then, pop the users/dealers and make money on the back end too.

they're bringing in opium as well.

thats a lot of yayo but i bet it is not even a small dent in what they push

This subject has already been discussed somewhat in this thread: Crashed drug plane owned by US Government? and a small amount at the end of this related thread: 5 ton coke bust- planes owners- Tom Delays appointee, and CIA?

I would pay more attention to Clyde O'Connor and Greg Smith—the pilots who purchased N987SA several days before the crash—than Donna Blue Aircraft, as I have my doubts that DBA is involved in anything. Clyde O'Connor, however, fled the country for the Azores shortly after the crash, and Greg Smith is a contract pilot for the DEA, FBI, and CIA.