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Women against Women trying to get rights!!

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posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 10:43 PM
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We are now in 1900's in my U.S. History class and we learnt that when women rallied to get suffrage, women at the same time women rallied against them.

Women 1: We want the right to vote.
Women 2: No, I don't want that right. I want to remain like a slave.

Isn't that weird, women literally rallied against the women who were trying to get voting rights for them? It was for their *bleep* benefit.

Any comments?

*Insert your favorite curse word.*




posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 10:57 PM
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I learned about the same thing. I think some women were scared of getting rights. Why? No idea.



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by BangorangRufio
I learned about the same thing. I think some women were scared of getting rights. Why? No idea.


My history teacher told me that the women arguing for rights were breaking the traditional role of women as mother and wife; and the other women who didn't want to break the tradition joined the anti-suffrage movement.

Have you heard of "Seperate Spheres" ideas?



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:11 PM
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No. We didn't go into it very much. All I can remember is that women wanted equal rights for themselves, and then for slaves, and that some women protested against it because I think they feared their husbands or something along those lines.



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by BangorangRufio
No. We didn't go into it very much. All I can remember is that women wanted equal rights for themselves, and then for slaves, and that some women protested against it because I think they feared their husbands or something along those lines.


I don't think you noticed that we are talking about 1900's, not 1800's.

1800's was a whole another time period and a whole another movement. Sorry

[Edited on 2/6/2004 by surfup]



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:18 PM
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haha oh yeah. I guess I have no idea what I'm talking about then.



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by BangorangRufio
haha oh yeah. I guess I have no idea what I'm talking about then.


I would say. Which class did you take?



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:21 PM
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United States History and Government.



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by BangorangRufio
United States History and Government.


Then, didn't you learn about Suffrage movement during the Progressive Era - the one right before WW1.



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:30 PM
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Somewhat. That class couldn't have been more boring. It was a miracle if I could stay awake, or not be distracted. I live in New York, so our curriculum might be different. We mostly learned about court cases. I had to do a report about Muller vs. The State of Oregon, which gave women a 10 hour work-day. I also remember something like "The Married Women's Property Act" that was passed by New York, but that's all I remember.



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by BangorangRufio
Somewhat. That class couldn't have been more boring. It was a miracle if I could stay awake, or not be distracted. I live in New York, so our curriculum might be different. We mostly learned about court cases. I had to do a report about Muller vs. The State of Oregon, which gave women a 10 hour work-day. I also remember something like "The Married Women's Property Act" that was passed by New York, but that's all I remember.


Definitely different. I live in California and we learn about the U.S. from the day it was started to current day covering almost all major events, movements, all presidents and anything that has to do with U.S.

We barely touched the court cases you mentioned above. What year did you take this case?



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:39 PM
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2 years ago. We did major events too, but everything focused around New York. Don't get me wrong though, we learned about other states, but mostly NY. It was like they felt proud of all the stuff we did, which wasn't much, and that we needed to know it all.

[Edited on 6-2-2004 by BangorangRufio]



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by BangorangRufio
2 years ago. We did major events too, but everything focused around New York. Don't get me wrong though, we learned about other states, but mostly NY. It was like they felt proud of all the stuff we did, which wasn't much, and that we needed to know it all.


That is weird, a entire circulum based on so small a region. We are learning about U.S. in general, specifics too.



posted on Feb, 7 2004 @ 03:13 AM
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Originally posted by BangorangRufio
I learned about the same thing. I think some women were scared of getting rights. Why? No idea.


This quote comes to mind, as a reason for it:

"It is the nature of slavery to render its victims so abject that at last, fearing to be free, they multiply their own chains. You can liberate a freeman, but you cannot liberate a slave"
-Halle, Louis J



posted on Feb, 7 2004 @ 03:17 AM
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So, the catalyst was really the Women against Women (and Men) against Women trying to get rights. No suffrage without them.



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