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Zecharia Sitchin, Annunaki, Mayan Prophecy ... Never happends in 2012




Topic started on 11-12-2007 @ 08:34 PM by Bluess


I see so many conspiracies linking Zecharia Sitchins annunaki/sumerian translations with 2012, and somehow the Mayan Prophecy is being linked to this aswell....

Here is the facts:

1. Only 1 place on Zecharia Sitchins official website, does he mention the year 2012, and that is in context with the mayan Prophecy, not in context with the return of "Planet x", infact his own prediction for the return of "Planet X" is 2085.

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In 1990 I met with Zecharia Sitchin when we appeared on a television talk show, in Long Island, hosted by Bill Knell. I found Mr. Sitchen to be one of the most informed people I had every met. The next time we met was in 1993 at NYU where we lectured together on ancient astronauts and related information.

Sitchin has recently put forth his own date for the next passage of Nibiru in the year 2085, but the date most talked about is 2012 which marks the end of the Maya calendar

However, a brown dwarf with a period of 3,760 years would be clearly evident through infrared and gravitational observations.In a recently published book, titled 2012: Appointment With Marduk, Turkish writer/researcher Burak Eldem presents a new theory, suggesting a 3,661 years orbital period for the planet and claiming a "return date" in the year 2012 AD.


So this is where people start to link Zecharia Sitchins with 2012, although it does not come from "The father" of the whole annunaki story himself...But from a brown dwarf and the Mayan calender...There is but a problem in linking the mayan calender with 2012 aswell...

2. The Mayan Calender does not end 21.december 2012, it ends on oct. 28th 2011!...yes, the Mayan Calendar is leading up to the Mayan year “Cero”, or 2012, but it ends oct. 28th 2011...

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Don Alejandro Cirilo Perez Oxlaj is the head of the National Mayan Council of Elders of Guatemala, Day Keeper of the Mayan Calendar, a 13th generation Quiche Mayan High Priest, a Grand Elder of the Continental Council of Elders & Spiritual Guides of the Americas, and an international lecturer on Mayan Culture. At 78 years old, he is recognized as a primary keeper of the teachings, visions, & prophecies of the Mayan people. He was trained in the traditional way to work with the elegant mathematics of the Mayan Calendar leading up to the Mayan year “Cero”, or 2012 in the Gregorian calendar


So the Head of the National Mayan Council says it leads up to the year 2012...hmmm well where did oct. 28th 2011 come from then?...

Well start by looking at this graphical illustration:

And visit this website: mayanmajix

You will also see that this date is backed up by Carl Johan Calleman Ph.D., an author of two books on the subject.

And I don't know with you, but i like my source of information to be valid, and "The Head of the National Mayan Council" + a ph.D professor, I find more valid then any homemade theory about the subject?

So from my point of view, there is not a link between theese two happenings.

Other sites that backup the oct.28 2011 date:

globalpsychics
calleman
and many more if you search.

So now we have 2085 and 2011, and we can exclude dec. 21 2012.

Thanks for reading this and i hope you enjoyd.



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reply posted on 11-12-2007 @ 10:18 PM by Anonymous Avatar


2012 is one those things where someone says the Mayans predicted something... so then who ever hears that assumes it to be true. Just like any other religion I suppose. I have a feeling the time period the Mayans are referring to have more to do with precession than anything else.



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reply posted on 13-12-2007 @ 03:11 PM by Bluess


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The mayans where very much into precession, and I agree that it is easy to get things mixed together in theory, especially with the allmighty internet today, people writing tons of pages with all kinds of dates and data, so it is hard to find the "truth" indeed.



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