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reply posted on 12-12-2007 @ 07:42 AM by AGENT_T
reply to post by 2PacSade



Hey it's christmas season.They expect you to eat rubbish over the holidays.
It drops your iq and makes you more receptive to all those TV ads for toys that you wouldn't normally entertain..

Wanna see my new psp? DOH!!!



reply posted on 12-12-2007 @ 09:43 AM by Vasa Croe
Interesting thread. I by no means do much reading at all and if I do it is a fictional novel about war or something of the sort. I watch a lot of TV, but also travel quite a bit. I have been tested in a professional setting in Atlanta 17 times in my life with both Stanford Binet and Weschler. My IQ score has fluctuated about 5 points both up and down from 138 to 143. I by no means consider myself a genius but my IQ fits the range. I am a member of MENSA for the benefits, but not active in the society at all. I was not an overachiever in school, nor was I an all A student....school was boring and I wanted more "worldly" knowledge than school could give. After all...the second a book goes into print it is already out of date.

I do believe that I have a greater ability than most to figure out a problem quickly and to have my answer be correct based on an educated guess. Does this make me more intelligent than the next guy....nope. Just means that I have a broader knowledge of how things work and can picture in my head what the outcome may be al bit faster without necessarily having been in that particular situation before.

I would also like to suggest that I think cognitive reasoning is a HUGE intelligence factor and believe we will start seeing higher IQ scores from kids that play video games all day. My reasoning for this is that their brains have to process information at a rapid pace in order to keep up with the visual and auditory information they are receiving. This makes them less likely to have much of an attention span, but their reasoning and speed at which they may react to certain environmental situations will be much higher because they have "trained" their brains to think faster based on simulated situations in a game. This is how we train military. I have known many active duty soldiers over the years and can tell you that 75-80% of them are highly intelligent. Though they may not be able to carry on a conversation about theoretical physics they can understand and comprehend what is being said. Just because you read a book on something does not mean that is the way it really happened.....after all it is a book written by someone on a particular subject they felt the need to write about. This means that there are no truly objective reading materials in print or on the internet.

Watch as much TV as you like, and read as much as you like. You just have to know that not all of it is true and quite a bit is skewed to the creators viewpoint.

With all that said.....I am ready for some TV!

-B

[edit on 12/12/07 by Vasa Croe]


reply posted on 12-12-2007 @ 11:35 AM by dk3000
Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to
post by SpeakerofTruth



Taken in an overall context, intelligence IS increasing though


No it isn't. Awareness is and there is a huge difference between the two.


reply posted on 12-12-2007 @ 04:00 PM by Skyfloating
reply to post by jbondo



The idea of being born and fixed to a certain level of intelligence doesnt sit well with me. It contradicts the idea of growth and improvement. Things grow. Body grows. Trees grow. Intelligence can grow.


reply posted on 13-12-2007 @ 10:44 AM by CharlesMartel
Originally posted by kosmicjack
Evidently I.Q. tests are not so much a gauge of your mental capabilities but more of an indicator of the quality of the environment in which you live. Intelligence is relevant to your surroundings and adaptability. It makes sense but it also makes me concerned for a generation of T.V. addicted, video-game playing, celebrity-obsessed and over-consuming American children. What mental skills or useful intelligence is being produced by American culture?

www.newyorker.com...

The psychologist Michael Cole and some colleagues once gave members of the Kpelle tribe, in Liberia, a version of the WISC similarities test: they took a basket of food, tools, containers, and clothing and asked the tribesmen to sort them into appropriate categories. To the frustration of the researchers, the Kpelle chose functional pairings. They put a potato and a knife together because a knife is used to cut a potato. “A wise man could only do such-and-such,” they explained. Finally, the researchers asked, “How would a fool do it?” The tribesmen immediately re-sorted the items into the “right” categories. It can be argued that taxonomical categories are a developmental improvement—that is, that the Kpelle would be more likely to advance, technologically and scientifically, if they started to see the world that way. But to label them less intelligent than Westerners, on the basis of their performance on that test, is merely to state that they have different cognitive preferences and habits. And if I.Q. varies with habits of mind, which can be adopted or discarded in a generation, what, exactly, is all the fuss about?


Was the purpose of the article to show that the testing required by "No child left behind" doesn't prove anything?

As one who got A's in classes where the grades were dependent on programming projects and B's (or less) where the grades were dependent on tests, I don't put much stock in tests. Before I realized the above correlation, I thought grades were more a function of the teacher's effectiveness than my ability to learn.


reply posted on 13-12-2007 @ 10:28 PM by Zenskeptical
Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to
post by jbondo



The idea of being born and fixed to a certain level of intelligence doesnt sit well with me. It contradicts the idea of growth and improvement. Things grow. Body grows. Trees grow. Intelligence can grow.


Do you believe in natural selection? Intelligence, you are born with. The ability to make use of your inherited intelligence you need to grow into.
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