I was always kind of interested in free-masonry. I knew that my grandfather is a mason and his father and father's father were all masons, so in this spirit of family tradition I recently took my first degree in my local lodge. I read extensively on ATS about masonry and through reading the knowledge and passion of members like masonic light and axeman I was excited about my future in the craft.

At my first lodge meeting I attended they had elections and there was a lot of bickering and tensions because no-one wanted any of the posistions. They practically had to beg people to take a position. Since there was few members actually there it was made even harder. I just sat there and wondered if this fraternity is so great why is no one willing to take a position of leadership.

After the election business was sorted out, they then proceeded to bicker about a date for a potential brother to take his first degree. The senior Warden stated he couldn't do it on the 21st because he would be celebrating. Someone said it was a holiday and the senior warden said it was "no holiday of his, but you can bet he would celebrate" then everyone laughed. I was lost about what was so funny until the junior warden explained to me that it "was Martin Luther COON day, and they would be celebrating his murder.

Many members there thought this was funny, but I got very upset and almost got up and left. I felt like I had joined the clan instead of the masons. I know it is not the fault of freemasony that some of there members are racists, but my excitement for this lodge has come in question after this.

Anyway, I was just wanting some advice as to what you guys think I should do about this. I joined to become a better man and gain knowledge, not to associate with racists.

I must confess that I do not see why you would not explore sites that are devoted to the fraternity and esoteric aspects of masonry when you are considering joining - instead of a forum that covers conspiracy theories for a wide range of societies, including masonry. I post on those other forums, and I also post here because I find this forum offers a great deal of comedy. You must forgive me for being suspicious, but given some of the stuff I have seen on this board I find its in my best interest to question most of what's posted, even seemingly legitimate questions. If a fellow brother confirms you are legitimate, then I apologize in advance for being suspicious.


[edit on 10-12-2007 by LightinDarkness]

nothing sounds that out of place, except for the blatant racism. I can't say what I would have done in a similar situation, but I would have probably kept my mouth shut, and never went back to that particular lodge.

I agree with scientist. And to give my two cents, my lodge was opened on the 1st degree for stated communications every time I can remember with the exception of a Fellowcraft class's degree that was ahead of me at the time. I was allowed in during business related meaning I simply sat in "darkness" (masonic term for where 1st degrees sit, don't read too much into it) and did not vote when it came time for it. My lodge is considered very well respected by neighboring lodges so I know nothing we are doing there is irregular.

Thus, I do not find it irregular that he was allowed in to at least part of the meeting. Although depending on your state it could be different of course. Given the bigotry inherent in the lodge and having to beg for new officers (although this is a problem in many lodges) it does not seem like it is a well run lodge to begin with so other problems could certainly happen.

I agree with the idea of contacting the Grand Lodge Secretary with your complaints. I don't care how southern your state is, NO grand lodge should tolerate racism like that.

I agree with the other posts here and add this:

If there is that much bickering and complaining going on and some dont want to take responsibility or certain positions, there is a lack of proper dedication and commitment. This is so far removed from proper lodge conduct that your best choice is to write them a letter saying

"Im sorry, but I will no longer be able to attend, blabla...." and then go find yourself something else.

This is great. The Masons immediately question your integrity because you are second guessing your decision.

This is a perfect example of why no one in their right mind should ever join the occult called Freemason.

Disgusting.

by the way, I flagged it for you.

And oh, by the way, 8 masons replies before the OP replied.





[edit on 10-12-2007 by stompk]

I caught that comment about there being things on the altar that someone shouldn't see. This makes Masonry sound like a cult or a religion. Sounds pretty childish.

You boys always have to have your little secrets. You don't ever seem to grow out of that.

Actually, I am suspicious because this is exactly the sort of thing tinfoil hat people like you would do - just to start drama. But keep trolling to get a response, you won't get one out of me. Previously I'd just debunk you line by line, but it's been demonstrated to me going into the gutter with people like you simply is not worth it.

And to the above poster, since your just trolling for a response all I'll say is: I'm sorry your upset you weren't let in to our secret little club. We're watching you. Yes we are.