Originally posted by GUICE2
reply to post by MurderCityDevil
Thats great and i wish my family wasnt scattered around so that i can do the same....but im not riding a bike 600miles to virginia and back when i
want to see my girlfriend. Everything is connected. Its not just about using less gas, why are we attacking this problem at the end of the line and
why not find where it begins and sever the beasts head? I know the price will go up and hopefully when that happens people will picket in the streets
and speak up about this. Unfortunately, a revolution is the only thing that will change all of the complaints that we have which stem from injustice,
no matter how small. Its just a matter of when, who and how.
Okay, two points: One: It's called AMTRAK. I promise you, it runs from NYC to Virginia. I can speak from personal experience. It runs even
further if you're interested. You do NOT HAVE
to drive. You do not HAVE
to do ANYTHING. You CHOOSE to drive. And, as such,
you have to live with the effects of your choices.
Two: It's called "supply and demand". Okay, everyone, repeat after me: "SUPPLY" and "DEMAND". That's right...now pick up your Intro to
Economics 101 texts and read along. All things have what is referred to as a "price elasticity." This is the amount demand will drop if you
increase the price of any good or service. For a long time, gasoline was presumed to have an "infinite" price elasticity (i.e., no matter how high
the price was raised, people would still buy it). However, in the early 90's the oil companies learned (much to their chagrin) that, while gasoline
did have a very HIGH price elasticity, it did not have an infinite one. As the price of gas rose, people actually DID reduce the amount of gas they
bought. The good news was this caused a rise in the number of vehicles that were built and sold that were gas efficient (or, at least, MORE gas
efficient than before).
Then came the late 90's/early '00s and the Rise of the Humungous SUV. Gas prices (as adjusted for inflation) actually DROPPED in the late 90's and
-- lo and behold -- all the good habits people had developed when gas had been expensive went right out the windows of their Expeditions and
Navigators (and don't even get me STARTED on the Hummers...) However, the people that actually took part in the exploration and exploitation of oil
kept trying to tell people "Hey, look...this is a FINITE RESOURCE. It's not like we can MAKE more of this stuff." Throw in political instability
(one of the CHIEF causes of the current rise in crude oil price is the conflict in the Middle East and Nigeria), a drop in the number of REFINERIES
(both in the US and elsewhere), and put a major hurricane(s) (remember Katrina) that practically SHUT DOWN oil and gas production in one of the
world's largest areas of refining and shipping (i.e., New Orleans) and you have... a drop in supply.
Now, Economics 101 tells us that, with a constant level of demand (oh, and don't forget, demand for gasoline in the WORLD isn't exactly "constant"
unless you consider "constantly increasing") lower supply will lead to ... you got it! Higher prices. We are finally reaping what we sowed when
Detroit convinced us that we all needed those 6 liter V-8 monstrosities to go to Starbucks for our morning coffee. I will admit, I look at the
"record profits" that ExxonMobil has reported recently and go "hmm..." But I acquit the local service station (who, I promise you, is probably
only barely breaking even) of price gouging.
Now, as I've been reading this thread, it seems to me that there've been a LOT of good ideas mentioned (i.e., take public transportation, a train
for longer distance travel, a motorcycle or bicycle for local travel, etc.) But if you want to go back to the days of cheap gas...? Uh huh. Ain't