reply to post by Warfax
1854: Two companies of the 1st Dragoons attacked a small Jicarilla encampment near Cieneguilla. Of 60 troopers, 22 were killed, 23 wounded, 2 later
died of wounds. Although the officer leading claimed he was defeated by a superior force of 250 Apaches, modern archeological reasearch at the battle
site confirmed that at most there might have been 20 warriors.
1859: Following the massacre of an Apache trading party near Kaskiyeh by Mexican soldiers, three Apache bands attacked the town of Arispe in vengeance
for their lost wives, children and other relatives. They were the Bedonkohe under mangas Coloradas, the Chokonen under Cohise, and the Nednhi under
Juh. after skirmishing for two days, the main force of Mexicans came out to fight, two companies of cavalry and two companies of infantry. A few hours
later, they were all dead, and Kaskiiyeh was avenged. It was in this battle that a new name of terror was born: he who was known as Goyathlay (He who
yawns), acquired the name he would be known by to the Pinda-lick-o-ye and Nakai-ye: Geronimo.
1860: Geronimo leads 26 warriors in an ambush of a company of Mexican cavalry, again defeating them, leaving no survivors.
1862: 30 Apache warriors turned back a Mexican punitive expedition, chasing them all the way back into Mexico.
1863: Geronimo and 3 companions attacked the Mexican town of Crassanas, near Casa Grande, causing the villagers to flee and capturing enormous booty,
enough to last his tribe a year.
1864: Geronimo and 20 warriors raid into Mexico, attacking several settlements and acquiring enough supplies to last another year.
1865: Geronimo and four warriors raid deep into Mexico, eventually reaching the Gulf of California.
During the Civil War, the US actually had to pull troops from the east to try to defend Arizona, without much success.
These are a small sample of the campaigns of one minor leader. When you look at what Juh, Victorio, Lozenn, Mangas Coloradas, Mangas, Cochise,
Delshay, Nana and others did you will understand the reason why the name Apache induced terror in both Americans and Mexicans.
I think people are forgetting what a guerrilla does. A guerrilla doesn't seek engagements with superior forces, especially not Apaches. We were never
into "military honors", our struggle was too deadly desperate for such fripperies. Our women and children were systematically hunted and scalped for
profit, when they weren't killed outright, they were taken as slaves. The Confederacy had a literal genocide order out during the time they attempted
to control Arizona: all Apache males were to be killed on sight, females were allowed to taken as slaves, but no captured Apache was to be allowed
within miles of another. What Apaches did was to raid to support their families, as the Anglos and Mexicans stripped all the resources wherever they
went, causing starvation whenever they could. In that they were successful for centuries.
We successfully fought the Spanish and blocked their advance northwards, they never penetrated beyond our territories. We routed the Mexicans
constantly, the only
way they ever won a battle was through treachery, usually by falsely offering peace. We finally lost to the Americans, but
only because they enlisted other Apaches to fight us (but then they betrayed those who fought for them and deported them to prison camps in Florida,
too...served them right for betraying their own people and believing the lies of the Americans); one on one, the Americans never could beat us.
Remember that Geronimo wsn't defeated in battle, he agreed to a negotiated peace that was betrayed as soon as he laid down arms.
As for SAS, SEALS, and other special forces, they don't count as guerrillas as they are backed by huge resources that true guerrilas lack, no
guerrillas I've ever known or heard of could call in air strikes; they are more counter-guerrillas than guerrillas themselves.
The Basque I give credit to, but they never suffered from a technology disparity: their weapons were always contemporary with their adversaries' and
they had their own supply bases and manufactories, plus they could play their neighbors off against each other, they never faced a combined genocidal
campaign in the same way as the Apache. The Boers were tough and inventive, but they actually were technologically superior to the British troops
facing them, their rifles and communications were better. The Montangards were excellent fighters: very tough cookies, but again, they also had the
bennies of equal armaments and strong outside support. The Seminole actually achieved something the Apache never did: they held out until the 1970's
when they finally signed a peace treaty with the US, so I have to give them credit for that.
If you're interested in the history of my people a few good books are:
Apache Wars by E. Lisle Reedstrom
Apache Chronicle by John Upton Terrell
The Medecine Men of the Apache by John Gregory Bourke
Once They Moved Like the Wind by David Roberts
Life Among The Apache by John C. Cremony
The People Called Apache by Thomas E. Mails
Great Apache Chiefs Cochise and Geronimo by Edwin R. Sweeney and Angie Debo
These are some of the better books in my private library, you'll find all the things I've cited in them, and vastly more.
Oh, why hasn't anyone mentioned the Maquis? They surely deserve a spot on the list, too, they fought a very tough campaign against the Nazis in
France, and the Yugoslav Partisans gave the Nazis fits, too.
Another good set of books on the subject in War in the Shadows, Vols 1&2. I forget the author, I loaned my copies to someone for research and never
got them back. But they are an excellent overview of guerrillas in history.