reply to post by CavemanDD
Hi Caveman :-)
These days, if I discuss it, it's in forums. Usually, I simply set out my experiences for what they're worth, in the belief that they may in some
small way be of assistance to others searching for a similar experience to confirm their own. Back in the days before internet, books were my only
resource and I could never afford as many as I wanted. So I'd buy filthy old books and clean them with methylated spirits and put them in a warm
oven to try to remove as many of the book-mites as I could ... all in the hope I'd find an account which tallied roughly with one or other of my
paranormal experiences, or proffer some form of explanation of the experience. In time, I learned that boooks aren't infallible, lol. But I was
raised in an era where books were revered, so it took me a long time to learn to sort the wheat from the chaff. Often, authors of paranormal books
simply re-word unsubstantiated accounts gleaned from other books. In time, these stories become set in stone, whereas in actuality, many of them
began life as exaggerations, myth or downright fraudulence.
So, the only way, really, is to live and learn and reach your own conclusions. I've been lucky in that I've had numerous spontaneous precognitive
experiences, many of them seemingly meaningless, such as dreaming I would say such and such and then pick up a red pen and tick an item on a page.
Meaningless. But when they occur in reality later, it's another brick in the wall of confirmation that pretty much all that we do and experience has
I hated knowing that, hated it. For years. And what made it worse was when people threw their hands in the air, saying loftily, ' Fate. It's all
down to Fate.' I used to explode and rant. For example, a man let his dog out of the yard to wander around while he (man) mowed the lawns. Then a
screech of brakes. Car clipped the dog. The man intoned, ' It was Fate. Meant to happen.'
'No you moron ' I yelled. ' It wasn't bloody Fate ... it was because you let the dog out to roam on the road.'
He responded with: ' Fate made me let it out.' I wanted to toss him on the road and see if he felt the same way when a car clipped him ! Not
allowed to test Fate on humans though, I guess.
But it was difficult, hating the concept of Fate whilst at the same time having randomly occurring big and small precognitive dreams and visions about
things which did come true and which I proved by insisting on telling others about them *before they happened in reality ... so that they couldn't
dodge the issue by claiming I'd only said I'd seen these things AFTER they'd occurred (when people are intent on denying something, a little thing
like calling someone else a liar becomes commonplace and too bad about the insult).
So what's going on? How come some of us 'see' the future (mostly just small, unimportant bits of Future) beforehand? How does that work? And why
is it so? For that, I turned to good old T.C. Lethbridge's books (the few I could get my hands on) and discovered he had pondered these same things
but more than that ... he'd gone a decent way to finding the answer. And he used a pendulum in some of his experiments with Time and the rest. I
love Lethbridge, no matter what the establishment says about him. He had a theory, which sounds reasonable to me, that Heaven is about the height of
an average room above us, and slightly to the left. Funnily enough, a number of people worth listening to have recounted, independent of Lethbridge
and going back long before his time, experiences which tally with his theory, based on their personal experiences of out-of-body, astral travel,
meditative states, etc.
So the Answer to All is probably both big and huge, depending on where you stand on the line between life and physical death and all the states
between. It's under our noses I suspect .. right on the tip of our tongue.
Lethbridge (what I understand of his theories anyway) proposed that as with everything else in Nature, Time and all it contains is cyclical, spiral.
Think petals, sea-shells, twining vines, growth patterns, DNA, spores, etc ... spiral. In one of his books, he's drawn a little diagram which from
memory, attempts to show the passage of Time on its travel towards us. It contains what we regard as the Future. And it makes its way towards us in
spiral fashion. This theory proposes that the Future has already occurred (WHERE??) but doesn't reach us until it spirals past us. I doubt
physicists could disprove Lethbridge on this. Anyway, it is clear that some of us for some reason have ACCESS to future events WHILST they're STILL
on the spiral making its way towards us. So, we see what hasn't happened yet. And we can tell others about it and then wait until those things DO
happen, and what we've seen and recounted proves to be accurate.
The fact that Tom, Dick and Harry all spontaneously 'see' the Future before it occurs on this dimension isn't 'witchcraft' or 'supernatural' at
all. It's a natural phenomenon. Tom, Dick and Harry didn't plan to see the Future. They just happened to dream it or receive a momentary vision.
It doesnt' mean they're any more 'worthy' as individuals or intelligent or sensitive or noteworthy. They've either inherited their 'ability'
or perhaps they're demonstrating an ability that in time will be common to others in society, at which time it will become commonplace. Or, perhaps
everyone DID have such abilities, but they've atrophied, thus making Tom, Dick and Harry *seem unusual.
But it still doesn't explain the nature of Time. One thing's for sure though -- clocks don't have a monopoly on it, don't control it. Clocks are
just a handy way of making apparent sense of it.
So, fortelling future events does seem to 'prove' the concept of Fate, much as I feel that concept is unjust. And Time seems to be anything BUT the
linear and controllable element we chose to imagine it to be.
It may well be that we enjoy a number of 'existences' simultaneously. Not all of them may necessarily be confined to human existence or even
physical bodies. But then again, they might. OR you may be part of a river or forest rather than human. We don't know. And those who do are
content to have worked it out and don't feel inclined to enlighten the rest of us, preferring we work it out for ourselves, even if it takes us eons
of existences. Who knows.
Then, if we cross to the area of past lives, we have to consider that the 'past life' character we were three hundred years ago may right now be
being contacted at some seance. For example, you were Jack in the 1660's. And right now, a group of teenagers are sitting around a ouija board,
chatting to old Jack. Except since the 1660's, Jack's lived a number of subsequent lives. And right NOW, the person who was Jack is named Connie
and is typing on the ATS forum. Yet Jack-cum-Connie is ALSO recounting his 1660 existence to the eager teenagers clustered around their ouija board.
So, Jack has become Connie (with several other identies in between) and BOTH are communicating NOW, seemingly unaware of each other's existence ...
even THOUGH Jack and Connie are basically one and the same. So perhaps several simultaneous existences aren't out of the question. The only thing
that separates them is Time. So Time is a medium and the deliniations we impose on it are artificial and may have led to our endless confusion about
who, what and where we are.
I'm not expecting this will make much sense if I read it later. Two people watching a cricket match on tv directly behind me .. had to get up and
close everyone's windows a moment ago because the rain was swamping in and no-one else noticed .. and I'm trying to make the dinner. Apologies.