Life in Dulce

hello everyone-this is my first post on this site and on the subject of dulce. as my subject suggests i do live in dulce. i live with my partner who was born and raised on the reservation. i thought i would try and clear some confusion up on the subject. maybe some of these questions have been answered, maybe not. please bare with me. dulce is a very small town. everyone pretty much knows everyones business. it is a reservation and the majority of the population is native american.there is one hotel (holiday inn) a grocery store and several small restraunts. now since it is a reservation, it is tribal land. meaning the tribe owns all the land thats part of the reservation. now the thing is if you are not a tribal member, you cannot go onto the tribal owned land. that is unless you are with someone that is jicarilla (apache) that does not mean that you cannot visit or live on the reservation though. for example archuleta is considered tribal land. to even drive up onto archuleta you have to be from there or with someone that is. for the first time since i have lived there i went atop of archuleta about a month ago. its very beautiful. your surrounded by nothing but trees and fresh air and wildlife. to drive in that type of terrain, you need to have a truck or some type of suv that is four wheel drive. do not even attempt to drive up in a car. its very easy to get lost or stuck up there. its also very confusing and you need to be with someone that knows the land like the back of there hand. fortunately i do and when we drove up archuleta i experienced several things. the very first thing i noticed was the static electricity. it was crazy! when i touched my seat belt i was shocked. when i picked up my cell phone i got shocked. the people i was with were experiencing the same things. another thing was the gas gauge. before we left we had gotten gas but we ONLY filled up half a tank. i noticed that as we got higher into the mesa the gas had read full. that was really odd for us. the last thing that we experienced was perhaps the oddest. i was kind of nervous to be ontop of archuleta to begin with. we had gotten to a certain point where we had reached a gate. it was more like a ranchers gate but said not to cross, as we were heading into the ute reservation land which is in colorado. so we turned around and as we were heading back down my sister had noticed about 10-15 lights against one of the mountains surrounding us. the position of the lights were VERY similar to the lights that were seen in arizona some years back. being that it was already dark we had no way of seeing anything but the lights. i couldnt tell if the lights were in the trees or mountains or even hovering for that matter. i was getting kind of nervous and i thought that maybe it was a bad idea for us to be there. we continued driving (as fast as you possibly can on a mountain) and i heard my sister say that there was some more lights. by this time we had lost sight of the first set of lights but when i looked to the direction she was talking about there was another row of lights(my right side) it was incredible. i have never seen anything like this before in my life. as we were watching the lights in awe one huge bright light appeared out of no where to my left. we were all speechless. the only way to describe the light was like one huge head light blinking slowly. at that point i just wanted to get off the mountain. so we watched the lights a little longer and continued back down. that was the craziest experience ive ever had and it was beautiful at the same time. i cant say that what we saw were ufos but deep down i really believe we saw something out of this world. my only regret was not having a camcorder. the time it took for us get up and down was about an hour and a half. it would be nearly impossible to go up now because of the snow we are receiving. the best time to go exploring for anyone that is planning to go some time would be during the summer

First, welcome to ATS !!!

Nice to know we have
"boots on the ground" in
Dulce !!!

Second, and please don't
take offense...use paragraphs.
That was a tough read.

About exploring, camera's are
a MUST. Still and video.

You are in a great place to get
some intense pictures, I envy
you.

Please, continue to post here,
and let's see some snow.

Regards,
Lex

hey man me and UtahBigfoothunter might be headed to Dulce REAL soon. Would you mind meeting us up there? Please private message me.

Are you a member of the Dulce tourism board furthering the tourism boards conspiracy to attract Ufologists as paying customers to the area?

If not, welcome to ATS. As I understand your post, its pretty difficult to drive around the area freely? That alone would be reason for suspicion about secret activity.

reply to post by hiii_98

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since i havent posted more than 20 msgs, i cant send you a private message. when are you planning on going up to dulce?

reply to post by hiii_98

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I've been through Dulce a lot, so i wouldn't recommend going in winter. your best best is probably in may or june.

i have other places planned for in early Spring (Dugway, and then back to Skinwalker Ranch). But i'll rent some crazy 4wheel drive vechicle and check out Dulce. Dont mind a really good hike either. Treking to the top of Tikapoo wasn't easy and i'm sure Dulce will be another nightmare, but it DEFINATLY sounds worth it! Please email me at hiii_98@yahoo.com. Excited to chat as I think we have a few potential hotspots to investigate based on google coordinates provided by people here on ATS!

[edit on 8-12-2007 by hiii_98]

viva nuevo mexico! santa fe here!

welcome to ATS and thanks for the thread.

i have been interested in visiting dulce and the mesa, but it sounds like i cant go up there alone, huh?

is there anyway to get permission to hike on your tribal lands?

anyway, thanks again for the post and welcome to the show.

reply to post by LaBella

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Welcome!

I spend way to much time in the Casino in Dulce and the one out on 550 too.
I have hiked and fished on the rez with friends but never saw anything like what you described. Whoa!

namaste
whaaa

thank you for the warm welcomes. ill be sure to email you hiii_98

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reply to post by LaBella

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Welcome to ATS


Thanks for sharing your experience with us, we definitely would like to hear more.

Suggestion, next time you head out "adventuring", how about taking a camera or video recorder, we'd love to see anything that you encounter.
Like a picture of the gate that you found. Maybe a video of being shocked in the car?

Thanks.

reply to post by LaBella

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8x10's glossy. Film stock, find some who could do justice to develop B/W's of area or high-def 5mega-pix, Color, this is your back yard click away

Howdy Neighbour
I grew up on the Bar B ranch down in counselors new mexico...
Dulce was on our northern border...Dulce is Spanish for candy as a side note... Man have I got a ton of stories about messing around crow canyon and up and down the largo as a teen...lot of wild things happen out there...

Lots of Anasazi ruins dot the mesa tops along the largo.. Growing up my grandfather would tell stories about the Anasazi not being from here/earth he claimed they were a not so nice star tribe/ outer space Indians...

He also claimed the big round rooms at Chaco canyon were not Kiva’s, a round room used for religious rituals. But rather a room used to house huge machines that made travel to the star tribe’s worlds

Anasazi, doesn’t mean ancient ones like all the PC types want you to believe…in Navajo it means 'ancient stranger' or 'ancient enemy'

Maybe he was a crazy old man...funny how we tend to find a lot of truth in a crazy old mans words though

of all the people giving advice on how to post so as to please the eyes, you, my friend, should not be one of them.


now back to the dulce discussion.

i just got released from house arrest and was planning on taking a trip to places in new mexico that drew my attention such as dulce. i was going to provide pictures of the underground tunnels here in clovis new mexico. i got permission from the hispanic business council who owns hotel clovis and some of the entrances to the underground tunnels are in the basement there. i found out about them through my great grandmother who worked there for a long time when it was open. then i read about dulce and the possibility of underground "highways" and i thought maybe for one reason or another people from dulce or other bases connected to this highway may need to come to clovis or to cannon AFB in urgency maybe for evacuation from the country or any number of things. is it true about the large numbers of trucks that come in every few weeks?

No there are not a large number of trucks coming in to Dulce every week. There isn't even a Holiday Inn in Dulce. Take the information you hear with a grain of salt.

Go try get some pictures please.

That's not quite true...
Okay to be fair its been 10 years since I was last up there and no I dont remember Holiday inn but due to a rather prolific oil field industry all around Dulce Highway 64 is a minor truck route. Farmington west of Dulce being the hub of the coal seam gas business... Not only did I grow up in that part of the world I use to work and hunt around those parts...

they were right in the whole area is criss crossed with oil field service roads. real easy to get lost in there, worse when it rains and you have to deal with the red clay that quickly turns into deep mud. Trust me on that one I stuck a semi in that mud once and it took three tow trucks to pull me lose..

Up in that part of the world its not UFO hunters any one worries about its treasure hunters... there's an old story about a group of Penitents (Los Hermanos de la Fraternidad Piadosa de Nuestro Padre Jesús Nazareno) This happens to be another “secret society” and not well known if your not from around here...

Anyway the Penitente Brotherhood went around robbing the local ranches and when the officials were call in to investigate they supposedly took mules loaded with treasure up into the hills...One of my duties as a teen were to make sure the treasure hunters wernt digging up the pastures like gophers...

if your wondering if I have UFO stories, having grown up just south of there sadly I have to admit no... but I do have a ton of ghost stories and one about a Skin Walker...now that's spooky stuff... :-)

As a side note as I said I havent been up there in a number of years but if anyone did want to go kicking around in the back country I wouldn't mind acting as guide. After all these years I'll probably be as lost as you are

[edit on 15-12-2007 by DaddyBare]

reply to post by ninjascout

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yes you are right. its not a holiday inn. ita a Best Western. my mistake.
frankly, i dont really care how you take my information.