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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 06:34 PM by johnsky
Originally posted by Bushwacked
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Oh im sorry the recent head of the russian armies comments such as

"The United States has gone evil and is headed for world domination"

And tearing up the cold war peace treaty.over south eastern europe's missle silo's usa is building isn't a reason to believe russia is going to call for war.

what planet do you live on and stop smoking the pixy dust.

Ps don't ask for aLink use Google i'm not the internet im human.

Heres a tip Russian Army Head+USA statements.

And google works for other things as well.

[edit on 6-12-2007 by Bushwacked]


Aside from much of that which was completely incomprehensible, one man, stating that the US is after world domination is a pretty far cry from declaring war.

Many nations politicians have stated the exact same thing, but you don't see a whole slew of countries at war with the US.

I'm not sure what planet you come from either, but theres a HUGE difference between words and actions.

Go look that up on google.


reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 02:09 AM by -0mega-
Originally posted by Beachcoma
So much for the argument that violent programs and games will not affect people's judgement. It does. It rewires your brain so that you are less appalled by it likely to put a lid on aggression.


So much?

I'd say this is similar to those articles about people committing acts of violence due to playing games (then claiming that violent games make everyone violent), it's different for each person.

I have been exposed to ''violence'' since I was 2.

And guess what? Since quite a few years ago I cannot even get ''angry'' anymore unless I'm in specific circumstances that require me to become angry.

And when I'm not angry, I'm not aggressive at all, even though I've most likely seen more people get their head shot off than the amount of people that died in World war 2.

In my case, I went from aggressive to less aggressive.


Desensitized to violence? Probably.
But more aggressive? Not at all, at least not for everyone.

But do note that desensitized in my context does not mean that one does not ''care'' about violence any more.

It merely means that I am not shocked when someone's head gets ripped off, but that I do still have my own ethics on whether it's right or wrong (And head rippage is most likely wrong)

So I'd say either your ''comment'' is biased, claiming that ''you (everyone) gets affected". (And I bet that at least more than 1000 people do not get affected)

Or somehow my brain is so uber that it prevents me getting affected in any way.

[edit on 7/12/07 by -0mega-]


reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 02:33 AM by Beachcoma
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Wow. Does this news upset you so much? I never claimed it increases aggression. I said exactly what was claimed in the article -- decreased ability to suppress violent urges. That may sound like a double negative, but it's not.

If your fuse is already short, than you will be more prone react aggressively. If you've got a better control of your behaviour, then you might not really act upon it (although you might think about whacking someone).

So yes, it does affect people's judgement in a sense.


reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 05:24 AM by C0bzz
I have over a thousand hours in violent videogames. K, well, after all this time, aggression has NOT gone up, but then again, I am always extremely calm and don't think I've ever acted aggressively.

That being said, I did notice violent thoughts went up, but so did thoughts about Deagles and FPS doug. That has MUCH more to do with becoming obsessed than anything else, but the good news it, as I've stopped playing these games for a few months, this tendancy is going down. Thank god, atleast, because playing videogames that much borderlines on Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, and certaintly wasn't bad for my health.

Aggression - no. Thoughts - yeah, though that may be to do the fact that I was desensitized to a point where I thought violence was OK and I was constantly thinking about PLAYING CS. OCD. Also notice the article fails to mention whether these changes are permanant.

The main problem with violence in the media is becoming desensitized to it and teaching children that violence is OK. THAT, is the problem, and I'm afraid it's not the childs problem either. It's YOUR problem. YOU made them, so get off YOUR are and BRING THEM UP, instead of blaming videogames for problems YOU caused.

If your son / daughter likes aircraft, get them to volunteer at your local airfield. if they like basketball make them play basketball. Get them a job. Get them to volunteer at a soup kitchen. Swimming - PADI Open Water Diving ticked. Flying - GPL. Do whatever it takes so they DON'T waste there life getting obsessed with videogames, becoming taught it's OK for violence. It's NOT ok, and they NEED to be taught that.

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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 11:15 AM by Helig
So the short of this is that video games and other media in fact can have an impact on a person? This will prove interesting to see how many sacks of scum get off on murder charges now because they can use this study to prop up their claims that they are in no way responsible for their actions because the movies and games made them do it. The study might not say that its a direct link to violence but if you are suppressing the negative reaction to violence its pretty obvious that you are far more likely to be violent yourself, or at least thats how I see it.

Of course I have to add another voice of dissent to this whole mess, I've played some of the most violent and controversial games we have ever seen (Manhunt, GTA, Postal 2, etc) and I happen to own several firearms as well; just the recipe that one would think leads to a mass murdering spree, however I'm not typing this out to you from a jail cell. In fact I have never had the slightest inkling to commit such acts, yet I also listen to music that many would classify as violent and praising fighting in general. Call me crazy but I don't see becoming desensitized as a totally bad thing; having such a paralyzing fear of violence that you shut down is in fact a bad thing.

If all you can do in a life or death situation is hunker down and keep telling yourself "OMG VIOLENCE, WRONG, AFRAID" then I would say you have some broken synapses somewhere. Granted violence is in some cases completely unnecessary and wrong there is a time and a place for everything I believe. If someone is in my home meaning to do harm to myself I shouldn't be devoid of the urge to stand up and defend myself, I shouldn't be paralyzed in fear because all I know is that its bad and I want it to go away. Violence in self defense is completely acceptable in my book, as is violence to protect those who cannot protect themselves for whatever reason. So step back and ask yourself if this anti-violence streak is all its cracked up to be...


reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 12:11 PM by AmoebaSized
Well, that is not my brain, my brain is not here to be insulted by people who probably live on hate in the first place because they can not control their brain. Neither would a child if the child was taught proper behavior in the first place. No, no, no, people who get more violent wanted to act that way in the first place, although some people may be affected due to chemical imbalances in the brain in the first place. Then some would get depressed because they have not learned to control their own emotions in the first place, and perhaps lack the tools to do that, although some people may need drugs to help.

I really doubt if a trained soldier would act that way also, since the training is there to surplant being affected by anything in the first place, which is needed for survival in the first place.

No, no, no, only certain people want other people to walk around like zombies so they can exert more control over others by refusing to get along with anyone and come out with prejudice and bias reports that only define their own characteristics in the first place.

Did you not read where people who mention things usually have been stated to be talking about their own experiences in the first place when judging other people in another report just recently?

Now, I admit that some people have addictive personalities and need to cure their implusive disorders and there are other factors that may add to some people getting more aggressive. Heck even there if you can not help yourself, who else is really going to help you without charging you for it and any of that, because it does take money?

No, then lack of money can make you more aggressive and prone to violence, along with anything else that interferes with your sense of equality for yourself or perhaps for others.

In the end all factors have to be added into the mix and half-witted excuses for behavoirs is just another excuse to make it seem as if that person had no intent in the first place when examining any issue brought up.

Transedental Meditation is known to help high blood pressure, so first a person would have to consider his/her own habits and how at the time that person is responding to the world and others around them, not only with violent TV or games or anything else.

A research has to include many factors that may contribute to the aggressiveness seen in some people, and video games would be the least of the worries when facing love that can not be gotten in a world that could care less with some research that does not add anything except a bias opinion in the first place.

Some people do need help, and there are warnings given on such games and ratings to such movies and then the attitude of the person has to continue to give the opposite mood the endeavor to keep oneselfs healthy in respect to this world in the first place.

It is simply appauling that some people still tend to support his/her own negativity about what they consider to be in this world except their own negative responses going on.

It is a cop-out in the end.

That would be like picking a gun to not know that the person is the one responsible about how the gun is used, and violence is the excuse given for that person to have shot some people like what just happened in Omaha. The person did not want to think better about the future even though the future may not be better for awhile, but then, a human has free will and that is the determining factor in the first place. To state that the human brain is hard-wired instead of soft-wired and that you can program yourself is to lead to delusional results that only refer to:

If you only had a brain to begin with you would.........? (finish the rest of the sentence).

I myself prefer jolly to lean and mean in the first place, because the people who came up with that one, only wanted an excuse for his/her self to keep that kind of behavior in the first place.

If that person only had a brain.............

But yes, some humans are really retarded when it comes down to doing any research that actually support telling any truth. It must be the Devil then doing that. I suggest seeing exorcists and phychologists then, for that person. There is nothing anyone else to do for that person, except learn more about how selfish and narrow-minded some people have become.

Shame, shame, shame on these type of people. They only wish to control others, and that is not acceptable when the behavoir probably is wrong in the first place. Instead of remembering the last time Columbia University was in the News listening by having the President of Iran speak there as if that would be something great for the University, you have a University that seems to have nothing to teach at it, it would seem.

I think in the end a pig farm would help there, so they could really smell the smell given off by the odor they wish to grant upon others in this world in the first place.

Perhaps they should just hide away, since they only see the bad people instead of anything good in the first place. Now, where is really their brain at?

Sell the University, it offers no education on anything there, I would have to admit to assume about that University in the first place.

Then I would read about something good, and try to keep from laughing too hard at the research in the first place.

What are those people smoking at that University?







reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 01:52 PM by Sestias
I probably think the research is valid because it supports my own conclusions. I don't see how repeated exposure to violence -- fictional or real--can have a positive effect on people. It might not influence a non-violent person to go out and blow someone away, but it doesn't reinforce constructive behavior either. But I'm something of a wuss. The violence I was exposed to as a child was very mild compared to what is common now.

As a college professor, once a semester I often allow my students to pick a movie and then analyze it critically, just as they would analyze a book. These are typical, middle-class students, very bright, usually well socialized. They vote on the movie to be shown. Almost inevitably, they pick a very violent one, the more violent and anti-social the better. I believe one reason is because they want to impress each other with their toughness. My main observation of this exercise is that few of the students are able to analyze the movie at all, or even to say why they chose it. It's as if they don't think about what they've seen, they just experience it. Their critical skills are not applied. Now I ask them to give reasons for their nominations before they can be submitted.

I can't say this generation is better or worse than mine, just different. Certainly they are more accustomed to depictions of violence than I am. It will take time and more research to be able to draw conclusions.

I don't agree that such studies give people an excuse for violent behavior. They don't preclude personal responsibility for one's actions. I would like to see more research on this subject.



[edit on 7-12-2007 by Sestias]



reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 02:40 PM by Areal51
How many people have played video games and them fantasized with a friend or fellow gamer about wishing one had a rail gun at their disposal to take out their bosses from halfway across town? Total obliteration from a depleted uranium slug. Fantasy courtesy of Quake 3 Arena I mean, playing violent video games does help one to have these kinds of thoughts. Those who are right in the mind just shrug it off. It's no big deal. But even kids fantasize about being cops and Darth Vader. How cool would it be to have the power of the dark side of the force? C'mon, come clean, who hasn't thought at least once that the scene in Star Wars where Vader kills the commander over the video screen wasn't cool? Who didn't wish privately that they could have that kind of power?

My basic line of reasoning has been that if a McDonald's commercial could make crave a burger, or a Guiness commercial could prompt me to phone my buddy to go out for drinks, then there had to be a correlation on behavioral and thought changes between violent images in movies and games. And besides, anybody ever get aroused watching and adult film? Okay, how about something more tame like Body Heat or Basic Instinct? How about Fast Times at Ridgemont High, the scene with Phoebe Cates emerging from the swimming pool? Or just Molly Ringwald getting her first kiss on her birthday in Sixteen Candles? So why should something as primal as violent thoughts be exempt from being exposed to violent images?

Anyway, I'm not ashamed to say that when I was a kid I used a towel as a cape and and old pair of my mother's stockings as a mask to pretend I was Batman. It would have been just as easy to play the Joker. Though, I've never actually thought that I was either. I do remember being influenced by old WWII movies and Kung Fu movies. John Wayne and Bruce Lee. I really wanted to kick some butt! I mean, I really wanted to kick some butt. I was a kid and that's what I wanted to do. I didn't really want to be in the trenches or in a fight with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, I just wanted to win the war and win the fight, if that makes any sense. Just pumped up with a desire to mimic what I'd seen on TV. Definitely related to the depicted violence that I'd seen, where else would I have gotten those ideas?


I didn't need a study to tell me what I already knew. Gangstas on the street look and act just like the gangstas on MTV. Given recent events in Omaha, Nebraska, just where did that young man get his misguided ideas about being famous from? Could it be that the mass media and Hollywood have negative influence on people of his mental and emotional condition, and pharmaceutical needs? I don't know the answer to that but I wonder, and my feeling is that it does to some unknown extent.

What children are exposed to today are very different from what was available when I was a child. Their definition of what's entertainment is much broader. Life is not life anymore, it's a game where everybody is a player. It used to be dog eat dog, every man for himself, but it was taken seriously, it was considered life. Today many old restraints have been removed just by the acceptance that life is nothing but a game. That attitude alone has to account for some of the trouble we've seen from our children. I mean being that our President talks and thinks that way, you know we have problems. It ain't nuttin' but Parker Brothers and Milton Bradley, dawg.
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