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House vote on illegal images sweeps in Wi-Fi, Web sites

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posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 07:37 AM

The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved a bill saying that anyone offering an open Wi-Fi connection to the public must report illegal images including "obscene" cartoons and drawings--or face fines of up to $300,000.

That broad definition would cover individuals, coffee shops, libraries, hotels, and even some government agencies that provide Wi-Fi. It also sweeps in social-networking sites, domain name registrars, Internet service providers, and e-mail service providers such as Hotmail and Gmail, and it may require that the complete contents of the user's account be retained for subsequent police inspection.


posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 08:47 AM
While I can agree that child pornography needs to be eliminated, the bill really means that ISPs and ANY company offering a WI-Fi point will be required to screen every image traveling on their network. That means opening every email with an imbedded image as well.

Apparently only two of our representatives remember they're there to protect our rights.

Not one Democrat opposed the SAFE Act. Two Republicans did: Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian-leaning presidential candidate from Texas, and Rep. Paul Broun from Georgia.

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 11:05 AM
reply to post by mythatsabigprobe

There's easier ways to deter child pornography
THIS.... is not the way

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 11:11 AM
I agree with Alex Jones and other private journalists/bloggers - how easy is it for the Govt. to pay people to flood legitimate sites with these kind of images - especially of the Hentai kind??

A pretty easy way to harass/shut down websites/forums/blogs that disagree with the Administration...

Heck one of the most private, obscure, star trek / game development webisites I participate in was shut down for nearly a week once when some annoying hacker spammed it with a constant stream of gay pornographic imagery

And with fines in the range of 150k - please - it's obvious what the intention is...

Like how they fast tracked it in the most shady way possible - another clear sign of mal-intent.

Ron Paul told them to F' off with it tho - good for him - he's got my vote!

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 11:19 AM
This is just the first step in control, taxing and regulation of the www. just like they do in China and other communist countries. Enjoy the web while you can because by this time next year, it won't be the same.

Actually I'm surprised that control and regulation by the elites/corp./PTB hasn't been instituted sooner.

Soon there will be another section of Govt. under the DHS, in charge of protecting us from ourselves.

Sort of another internet Patriot Act.

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 11:44 AM

the bill really means that ISPs and ANY company offering a WI-Fi point will be required to screen every image

Hi BigProbe, I'm confused.
Could you please show where you found that they will be required to screen every image?

I've just read both the article, and the text of the bill.

I must've overlooked a requirement to screen all images.

I do see a requirement to report the images once they "become aware" of them.

Which IMO loosely translates to; continue business as usual (since they're already required to do that). Although now they will have to report it differently, and save the image for forensic purposes.

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 12:13 PM
reply to post by makeitso

I guess I misread that. I got the impression they were subject to a fine if it appeared on their service, but it seems they can only be fined if they don't report it after someone notifies them. I can't imagine someone not reporting child porn.

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 12:33 PM
The cost of enforcing this law would exceed the GDP of the united states. You would need a team of 10 million people working 24 hours a day, screening every image on the internet ad infinitum to be sure you wouldn't have such a thing travel over your airwaves.


Might as well allow just 1 website, block all the rest:

www dot ministry-of-truth dot gov

Of course, for your own protection.

[edit on 6-12-2007 by dionysius9]

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 01:31 PM
How can I see images through a Virtual Private Network over an open Wifi connection ?

Only NSA has the tools to decode it.
Will they help ?

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 01:54 PM
You know how sometimes when you register at a website of some sort, and in order to prove you are not a machine you have to type the letters in the image?

There are coded scripts that can decode that image on the fly, that's why you see other patterns behind the characters in the image to throw off these coded scripts.

Also there are secret software in your computer that scans anything you print to see if they resemble dollar bills.

I'm sure some coded scripts can be done for questionable imargery as well.

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 02:09 PM
Then you come into another law that you always need to give your secret keys to the government.
If you refuse you are again fined.
But I do not know the secret keys of others, using my Wifi connection.
It seems that it is not allowed anymore to help other people going to the Internet.

posted on Dec, 11 2007 @ 08:48 AM
reply to post by ModernAcademia

First for those who think, that if your not connected by modem,or landline are in for a Big surprize, the government, has ways to read Wi-Fi signals, nasa, and a major cell phone company ponineered, the techology for private use on the flip side what do think the government is doing with the Nsa. This is open source

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