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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 03:17 PM by blueyedevil666
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this skeptic will share a personal experience with you:
New Jersey driving through a very sleepy town (SUV with sunroof) late at night, brother riding shotgun on way to pick up DVDs to rent for the night,
time was about 10:30 pm weekend...season: fall.
as we were were approaching the center of town, which was very small, there were no other cars on the road and it was quite dark (no moon), we noticed
immediately a cluster of lights 'hanging' right above the town center.
As we drove just about underneath the suspended object, i stopped the truck and got out on drivers side, stood next to truck and watched. Brother did
same.
The object was roughly 150 feet above ground, real low, silent, and featured a series of lights that do not conform to FAA standards, that was
noticeable right away.
The shape was that of an equilateral triangle, matte black (reflection of flashing & city high pressure sodium lights off fuselage)....the very rear
of the object had a distinct rounded convex 'bump' that looked liked a big ass on the craft.
While we tried to determine the nature of the craft it turned on its axis, silently, and illuminated the area in front(sky) with gigantic dual
headlights.
Turned again 45 degrees and began to 'drift' west of us (away from us) real real slow, i estimate 3-4 knots.
The size is what frustrated me, it was very small, no bigge rthan an extnded van you see on the road, we both drove away from the experience with the
impression it was a UMV (unmanned vehicle)....thats the impression it left on us.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 03:28 PM by Skyfloating
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Hey, thats more like it
Thanks a lot.
You are absolutely right that hard, touchable, CNN-approved proof is scarce, by the way. Not gonna argue against that.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 03:40 PM by greeneyedleo
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I love LOVE storms and have spent time oustide in them often...and the beach and water...However, those have no affect on me seeing any UFO type of
thing.
As I said in my thread I stareted. I have lived all over, visted all over....always look to the sky...sometimes try...sometimes dont try to see
something...am very aware of my surroundings...take tons of pics/video and i never ever ever have had any dream that has to do with aliens/ufo etc
etc....and in 30+ years havent seen anything
sucks to be me, eh? LOL
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 03:46 PM by blueyedevil666
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Thanx Sky!! ya i would love proof of some kind either way, whether alien or military, though i felt for some reason that the craft we saw that night
was man-made.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 03:48 PM by Scramjet76
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In the meantime, one response that I've made previously involves the purchase, borrowing, or use of a Cinetheodolite, a missile tracking telescope
that automatically locks on to, zooms in on, and films objects in the sky. You can bet that the black ops guys have 'em and they're not just using
them to track missiles.
Hey Outrageo- that looks like a cool piece of $$equipment$$.. The question I would pose is what makes them good at tracking UFOs if they were
designed to track missiles? I'm guessing it uses some type of IR sensors to track things?? If the UFO doesn't emit radiation in that spectrum, it
would do no good.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 04:01 PM by Scramjet76
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An interesting event and surely a high tech military UAV is one possibility (probably the most likely). The reason there are so many people who
believe in "aliens" is because it's difficult to make a case for mankind manufacturing vehicles decades ago which far exceeded the performance of
well known man-made machines today. If you eliminate the conventional you are left with the unconventional.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 04:15 PM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by antar
One night my son and I were doing nothing in particular and I said to him riding in the passenger seat, "Go inside and see where we should go
tonight" He did so and right away he said "The bald spot!" ( I have lots of stories from this same location and the
surrounding area.)
Great story. There are PLACES....and they can be sensed...by the young at heart.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 04:17 PM by woodwytch
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Hey there eaglediver,
I don't think you'll be bursting anybodies bubble sugar ... at least not the people who have experienced abduction or seen a UFO with their own eyes
(that could not possibly have been anything other than a UFO).
Sure some sightings could be hi-tech military stuff, but trust me there is an awful lot of evidence out there (most of which is kept under wraps).
However, you're wise to be sceptical if you have not witnessed something firsthand (that applies to anything in life), because there are
unfortunately a lot of people out there who think it's sweet to pull peoples chains. It's not surprising with all the hoaxes that get dangled under
our nose, that many people assume everything must be a hoax ... even when it isn't ... maybe that's just 'the powers that be' trying to double
bluff lol
If you ever do see one you'll 'know' exactly what I mean. But seeing as you stopped by and took the time to read all the previous posts ... why not
give it a go and get to topic by posting your suggested method of making alien/ufo contact. Woody
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 04:31 PM by Outrageo
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It is basically an optical tracking telescope, often with with multiple redundant borescopes to correlate elevation angles, azimuths, and imagery.
They don't use infrared. Instead (in newer models) the computerized control of internal electrooptical automatic tracking systems detect movement in
the field of vision during a sweep of the sky and then adjust to hold-and-center the object (missile, satellite, aircraft, ?) while filming. It
can't spot/film something that is invisible - it needs a reflection or light to track. Not much light - but something.
BTW - The necessary computer systems, software, and peripherals would add substantially to the cost of the cinetheodolite alone. And since your
checkbook is already open, might as well add a ballistic camera, long-focal length performance-capturing scope, and an optical retroflector or two.
Oh - and a dome and mount. A couple of interns to keep an eye on things. And Pizza - lots of beer and pizza. Toss in a van/rv to put some of the
laptops/monitors/beer.
Thanks. Can we have it ready by, say Monday? Cool.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 04:34 PM by Skyfloating
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I once went 10 years without seeing so much as a single UFO. During that time, as far as I was concerned, they didnt even exist. My best contacts took
place during childhood. Ive come to believe this has something to do with the naivety and conceptless openness one has as a child.
One really strange thing Ive never shared with anyone...not even believers:
The last UFO experience I had, which was a few months ago, sparked memories of other encounters I had forgotten that I had. I mean, I had completely
forgotten them...as if they never happened. Then this one occurence shows up and I remember others like it as if they were the most natural thing.
For me, this lends credit to the theory that you have to be in a certain state/mind-set for certain experiences.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 04:47 PM by woodwytch
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Hi greeneyedleo,
A person after my own heart ... just keep on doing what your doing ... but don't be surprised if/when it happens, it's the last thing you expected
to happen
Alternatively, you could dip into the 'manuel' and test drive a few of the methods mentioned. There are a couple I intend to try-out. I'd love to
have a go on one of them telescope thingies they sound amazing ... don't think santa will get down the chimney with it though
'Sky' this thread was a brilliant idea ... my god you even got a sceptic to spill his beans  Woody
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 04:52 PM by yahn goodey
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ufo sightings and war activity on earth seem to coincide-------aliens seen on the battlefields of ww1 and ww2 fighting on our side against the
germans--------ufo's with the nuclear and rocket tests back in 1947?---------- i'm not so keen to repeat these methods to again see increased ufo
activity but there are plenty of war mongers on earth that are going to force this issue anyway.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 05:08 PM by Jakman
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I would suggest people with scopes to point it at the Moon and connect a recorder.
Being an avid "Moon Watcher" through an eight inch SC scope, I've captured some odd things on digital video. Although I don't actively look for
unidentifieds, I still get some strange results once in a while.
This is one of them:
www.boomslanger.com...
Knowing photo analysis and with other investigators input, we have determined this is not any known type of aircraft, satellite, balloon or bird. But
definite identification is impossible unless it lands in my yard.
But sky snooping with a scope can yield some amazing visuals.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 05:10 PM by Scramjet76
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Ahh so whatever is moving has to be within the visible spectrum. Still a cool toy... especially for tracking things in the upper atmosphere. Who
knows what it might pickup? I have a hard time seeing planes when they are cruising at 33-39k (ft altitude). This thing would definitely come in
handy. Anyone have $200,000?
Since we already have opened checkbooks might as well throw in a house in AZ so there are few clouds to contend with... we can all meet at this house
several times per year for "UFO skywatches." Heck if we get bored bring on the pizza, beer, and videogames.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 05:25 PM by Skyfloating
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Manual Table of Contents for Reading Convinience
Pages 1-4
Page 1
Skyfloatings Star Gazing Method
Antars Stormy-Lake Method
Antars No-Expectation Method
The Oracles OOBE Method
Woodwytch Abductee-Group-Intention Method
Page 2
Extraliens aluminum torch method
Eyewitness86 tuning method
Page 3
antars "pick-a-location-in-map" method
Outrageos missile-tracking-telescope method
hawk123s tamara-sensor method
Page 4
Jakmans Moongazing method
Scramjets google-gazing method
to be continued...
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 05:27 PM by Scramjet76
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Although I don't actively look for unidentifieds, I still get some strange results once in a while.
Interesting indeed and well documented I see. Although one thing I would point out... In order for UFOs to move around silently (and without creating
sonic booms), they must have a method of reducing their shock-wave during flight.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 05:36 PM by Scramjet76
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Another method you may want to consider is geographic internet data such as Google Earth to locate UFO sightings. You never know when one might
return to the scene of the crime.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 05:47 PM by Skyfloating
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right before I wanted to suggest for you to propose a method, you do it. Your addition as thankfully been edited into the aforementioned table of
contents.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 06:07 PM by antar
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Skyfloating, just to share with you a syncronicity, I have not seen my son mentioned above since last year this time and he has not been home for over
3 years. Just a few minutes ago he called and I told him I had cookies ready to send out to him and he said, "Hang on to them then" After I screamed
he said he just felt like coming home for the Holidays and has taken a month off to come home. He decided this on the spur of the moment today and as
we have always followed our instincts...
Talking about him today must have helped...
I am so happy, he will be here on the first anniversary of his twin sister Cyannes transcendence.
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reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 06:13 PM by Scramjet76
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Lol well not "google-gazing" so much as just identifying known locations of UFO sightings and then perhaps traveling to that location. I've read
that UFOs sometimes make repeat visits to a location.
The reason I suggested Google Earth is because it's free. Geographic software and data is usually quite expensive.
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