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Originally posted by ipsedixit
Why, pray tell, do not all of the various and sundry peoples who inhabit the "British Isles" unite together in common cause to field a football team composed of the best players who are British citizens, a team which would surely seize and hold the World Cup in perpetuity? Is there a lesson in multiculturalism here? Can it be carried to excess?
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
you also missed the fact that Wales was never a kingdom and never had a king.
Originally posted by ipsedixit
This is the sort of defeatism that multiculturalism engenders.
The people who invented soccer
I have to tell you that the same ... has reared it's head in Canadian ice hockey, where certain people in Quebec (a self-styled nation) want to have their own hockey team to compete internationally.
Fortunately the majority still relish the sweet havoc of victory, and will put aside such trifles as race, language and religion to achieve it.
Too bad the British have lost all that. Over here, we still celebrate the British army's burning of Washington! This sort of thing could still be done with a truly national football team. It's a pity.
Originally posted by skibtz
Originally posted by ipsedixit
Fortunately the majority still relish the sweet havoc of victory, and will put aside such trifles as race, language and religion to achieve it.
Too bad the British have lost all that. Over here, we still celebrate the British army's burning of Washington! This sort of thing could still be done with a truly national football team. It's a pity.
skibtz:
We are not too sad about it. The Premiership is arguably the best football league in the world. A league represented by players from all corners of the UK and indeed the world.
Maybe I've misread the whole political dynamism of the UK. Is the UK devolving? A word of advice. If the UK is devolving, try to keep this information from the Danes.
[edit on 18-12-2007 by ipsedixit]
Originally posted by Ste2652
...I'm mystified as to how anyone could think nationality has anything to do with race.
Nations are artificial constructs made by and defined by humans
(which is also why I find nationalism odd... I can't understand people who go on about what 'Englishness' means to them because, at the end of the day, what is it but a state of mind?
Race is something entirely different
I believe we need to have a long hard think about the laws around this issue.