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Does the Capital Dome symbolize the entrance to Hades?

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posted on Dec, 7 2007 @ 03:39 AM
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Leave it up to a Mason to call anyone who disagrees with them their enemy.


If you forgot, this is a conspiracy website.

I'm not the one who wore their little apron, to design our Capitol and it's policies.




posted on Dec, 7 2007 @ 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by stompk
I'm still waiting for a post that shows all the wonderful things the Masons have done for mankind.


I'm still waiting for a post where you understand that when you make outragoues accusations, the burden of proof is on you. Stop using these endless logical fallacies, including the above quoted strawman logical fallacy. No one has claimed masonry has done anything wonderful for mankind, although there are still examples - take, for example, the shriner hosptial you just quoted (I appreciate you doing my work for me :up
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Originally posted by stompk show me one charity, and it's spreadsheet showing the money is going where it is supposed to be going

Done.


Originally posted by stompk me that the money Clinton and Bush (masons) collected for the Tsunami relief went to what it was supposed to.


Gee, how surprising, yet another lie and completely made up post from you. Where is your evidence clinton/bush are masons? Hmm?


Originally posted by stompk me the proof, that the Masons don't think they are better than everyone else, and therefore deserve to inherit the Earth.


Here we are back again to your misunderstanding of basic logic: its called BURDEN OF PROOF. You are making the outragoues accusation based on a strawman fallacy that masons somehow they think are better than everyone else. No one else has said or claimed that - you have - and now you must PROVE IT.

Let me demonstrate your stupidity:

Show me proof, that stormpk doesn't think he is better than everyone else, and therefore deserves to inherit the Earth.

SHOW ME!


[edit on 7-12-2007 by LightinDarkness]



posted on Dec, 7 2007 @ 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by stompk
reply to post by a3Dme
 


Leave it up to a Mason to call anyone who disagrees with them their enemy.


If you forgot, this is a conspiracy website.

I'm not the one who wore their little apron, to design our Capitol and it's policies.



Have you even looked at your own posts or the posts of your own co-haters? This comes from the same people who summarily dismiss entire posts of logic and reason by saying "your wrong/your stupid."

L O L

Hopeless. Have you forgotten that conspiracies can be made with logic and reason? Just because you can't do so doesn't mean others have not...

[edit on 7-12-2007 by LightinDarkness]



posted on Dec, 8 2007 @ 01:51 AM
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In your reply to post by a3Dme you stated:



This comes from the same people who summarily dismiss entire posts of logic and reason by saying "your wrong/your stupid."


Then in a previous post you stated:



Let me demonstrate your stupidity:


Well if the shoe fits...

Now it would be nice if we could get back to the topic. There are those of us that find it interesting and would like to see it continue in a constructive manor.

Whether you agree with the symbolism or not is up to you. Since you disagree with the OP, please state your interpretation of the symbols. One at a time, with references, and then in conjunction with the others for an overall meaning. Thus showing an alternate possible meaning that can be discussed.

[edit on 12/8/2007 by pstrron]



posted on Dec, 8 2007 @ 09:11 AM
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Oh I'm sorry, but you might need to spin again. Dismissing an entire post would be saying "your stupid - that's all I need to say." I backed up my point with an example and demonstrated the stupidity. That's called describing something.

I won't go through and quote the 100+ lines of anti-masons dismissing everything that is said that disagrees with them by simply saying "your stupid" with no evidence. If you can't see it, you never will.

Of course, all this shows is you cannot at all refute what I have posted, but are back to arguing about arguing. I have posted - line by line - what you want, you just can't refute it.

[edit on 8-12-2007 by LightinDarkness]



posted on Dec, 8 2007 @ 11:46 AM
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Would it not be difficult to prove that someone were a particular member of a secret society. Isn't that the secret bit?

If we can return to topic, only a lunatic could be blind to the symbolism in the capitol building



posted on Dec, 8 2007 @ 12:06 PM
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I have yet to see a "secret society" on here where everyone doesn't know who is a member and who is not a member. This is because the REAL secret societies out there, which may exist, would not even be known about by this board.

If we could return to the topic, only a lunatic could be blind enough to simply accept this made up symbolism in the capitol building.



posted on Dec, 8 2007 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by stompk
I do believe in the right for every man, woman and child to believe in whatever they wish, as long as it doesn't afflict harm on me or my family.


I believe, the belief in Roman rule and Greek gods is definitely harmful to America, and therefore harmful to my children, whom it is my responsibility to pass down a decent, moral society.


I think you mean "inflict", not "afflict"?
Also, Bush and Clinton aren't Masons. Bush was bestowed an honorary title, but he isn't a regular Mason and isn't accepted as such. I dont know if Clinton even had an honorary title.

Are you not aware that our country was FOUNDED on the idea of Greek and Roman government? It makes perfect sense that we would have Greco/Roman art in our govt buildings, that's where our ideas on democracy came from. Also, you've got your symbolism all wrong. Satan has a pitchfork, not a trident.
And that picture of the Gaia statue? Where did you get your "information"? There is only one known Gaia image ever and it was a very rotund woman, pregnant with the Earth. It looked nothing like the statue picture you posted.
There's not one single Satantic thing in this art or in the Capitol dome. I've studied Greek, Roman and Egyptian mythology and symbology for 45 years, and you sir, have it all wrong.
Also, remember, there WAS NO SATAN until way after Greek and Roman times. Satan was created by the Christians. so how could ANY of these symbols be Satanic? They are much older than the concept of Satan.

I think you are running on fear more than fact....



posted on Dec, 8 2007 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by stompk
Here's what I think about Masons

They are a bunch of gay guys who couldn't get any pussy in real life.
I'll take the warning' or ban if need be, to make my point


That is just so utterly offensive, in several different ways. It speaks volumes more about you than any Freemason. Freemasons try to be gentlemen and to see each other as Brothers. You could learn a thing or two from them.



posted on Dec, 8 2007 @ 02:08 PM
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Bravo, bravo, bravo.


As you correctly point out, Greece is indeed where democracy was born. The Athenian direct democracy was one of the most important political experiments in human history, in my opinion. That we honor their achievement, which you again correctly stated is the basis of our government, should be unsurprising.



posted on Dec, 8 2007 @ 07:36 PM
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Excellent post forestlady.

I think anyone who has any desire to study and comprehend United States history would find the facts that forestlady posted to be quite true and prevalent at during the Revolution. The spirit of Republic as exemplified by the Greeks and Romans was idealized by the Founding Fathers. It prevailed on many of the decision making procesess including the design of the court system, the multiple branches of government and the use of codified law to cite a few important instances.

As for the apotheosis of George Washington, he was hailed as a new Cincinatus, the famed Roman general who retired from power after his alloted term expired and returned to his farm. Washington could indeed be called the 'Saviour' of America as he famously said when urged by his troops to become King, "I did not fight George III to become George I."

The Fasces were no more sinister an emblem when installed on the Capitol then any other of the iconography depicted there. The sole reason they have their present tyranical implication is due to Mussolini's incorporation of them into his party's imagery.

I do not see anything sinister in the icongraphy of the Capitol, on the contrary, I find it to be a fantastic and stylized incorporation of ancient history with that of the United States own history and accomplishments.

[edit on 8-12-2007 by AugustusMasonicus]



posted on Dec, 9 2007 @ 10:13 AM
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For those that are tired of listening to the BS




posted on Dec, 9 2007 @ 11:25 AM
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Stompk, that video is so full of inaccuracies, it's laughable. I mean, c'mon, Alex Jones? MR Jones knows nothing about symbolism, witchcraft, Magick, or Satanism. His young henchman, whoever he is, has got it ALL wrong. He claims Columbia is actually a Babylonian goddess. He then says she is actually Enyo, a Babylonian god who looks just like Columbia. Firstly, how can a goddess look like a god? Next, Enyo was GREEK and she was a goddess not a god. Nor did she look like the Statue of Freedom on the capitol.
Here is an image of the Statue of Freedom, atop the Capitol:

godc.about.com...

Here are several images of Enyo:
images.google.com...://altreligion.about.com/library/graphics/bellona4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://altreligion.about.com/library/graph ics/bl_bellona.htm&h=350&w=300&sz=38&hl=en&start=5&tbnid=SDZEP1a1EXxKwM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=103&prev=/images%3Fq%3DEnyo%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26 sa%3DG
Sorry for the long URL, couldn't get it shorter. You can also go to Google Images and type in Enyo.

BUT...they look nothing alike if you go to these URLs. Statue of Freedom is a composite of the early American image of the Indian Princess (presumably Pocahontas), and the American goddess Columbia (that's right, she was an American creation). The Indian Princess motif has a headdress of feathers. Enyo does not. The 2 are very different.
Also, there's nothing evil about the pentagram - it is a symbol of protection, NOT destruction, as Jones and henchman would have you believe. The American goddess Columbia is about as American as apple pie.

HEre is some info about Columbia:

"The Long Island Museum notes that:

“Uncle Sam was eventually utilized by both the political left and right for different causes….His female counterpart has undergone several transformations in identity, clothing, and style. Long before we had the Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor, the Indian Princess [Columbia] symbolized the New World. Over time the Princess became less "native" and more European. Her skin grew lighter, her features became less "Indian," and her dress was adapted to the mode of the moment…. As America matured, the image of Columbia was used to symbolize America, and she was usually depicted wearing a red-white-and-blue dress with a star studded crown.”

www.fullcircleevents.org...

Read research by actual scholars, not blow-hard egomaniacal attention-seekers such as Alex Jones, who sees Satan behind every tree.



posted on Dec, 9 2007 @ 04:10 PM
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He said Enlil not Enyo. Dur.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Dec, 9 2007 @ 04:27 PM
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Do you not find it amusing the stompk is incapable of defending his tinfoil hat conspiracies? When challenged, he simply declares that everyone else is wrong and full of BS. The most amusing thing is he then posts a video of Alex Jones simply declaring without evidence or proof what everything "really means." But of course, that isn't BS



posted on Dec, 10 2007 @ 09:04 AM
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Thanks for the correction, BB. Even so, Enlil looks nothing like the statue atop the Capitol dome. Here is an image of Enlil:

www.vecip.com...

Enlil was the Sumerian god of the wind - nothing evil about him. Stompk, just because it's about gods and goddesses doesn't make them evil. I think doing some research into mythology would benefit you, if you're going to be telling us what various symbols and deities represent.



posted on Dec, 11 2007 @ 11:40 AM
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I didnt say that I believed it or anything and didnt say that it looked anything like the statue...I just felt bad for you writing all that stuff about the wrong god.



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