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Ex-Italian President 9/11 An Inside Job

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posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:25 PM
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Hm. That's odd. The 9/11 commission never identified who this manager was or what the newsletter was OR how the newsletter got so ridiculously improbably lucky OR why the manager would have believed what, under ordinary circumstances would have been a monumentally boneheaded trade to be advisable.




posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by CaptainObvious



"[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe ... now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part ... in Iraq [and] Afghanistan."





just quoting the captain because he was the one to take the time and open the document.

I totally agree with ya captain... but that said let me make a comment on the emboldened part...

/Rant ON

Soooo the ex-president of Italy is a neo-nazi Eh? I guess it fits in with their support of the 'national socialist' movement in Germany that CAUSED WWII.

Lets me just state for the record I will GLADLY take a board kick to put you NAZI's in your place... to blame everything on the MOSSAD and the "Zionists" is a sad sad excuse for your existence.

As a Member of the ARA (Anti Racism Action Group) and a former ARA skinhead it would cause me nothing but pleasure to give you a curb smile via the internet. We ARE active in America... and we believe scum only belongs in one place... THE TRASH.


For the Record... if you are anti-zionist (wow sucks that people want to have a say so in the religion of their leadership [read sarcasm]) you are a Anti Semite... which in turn makes you a NEO nazi... If you think the MOSSAD were involved in the acts of 9-11 you are a sad excuse for an American.

I don't care which view you take... no-planes/planes thermite/jet fuel... the KEY thing we all need to UNDERSTAND about 9-11 is that it WAS an inside job. To many defense mechanisms were left unchecked (or even considered)
The US Government is the ONLY group that should be prosecuted for the action. CIA/FBI/NSA/FAA/USAF should all be forced to change leadership and all leaders in these organizations deserve the MOST SEVERE PUNISHMENT UNDER THE LAW... Quit looking for excuses... Point your finger in the right direction.

at yourself.

/rant off



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:29 PM
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I wouldn't be so doubtful that "all roads lead to Israel" as far as 9/11 is concerned...I mean just look at the attack on the USS Liberty, that should be evidence to anyone that Israel's more than willing to bite the hand the feeds it, or rather what about the massive Israeli spy ring that was operating WITHIN THE UNITED STATES just prior to 9/11 or what about the Israelis that were apparently members of that ring that were caught celebrating the destruction of the towers that apparently had bomb residue in their vehicle? The evidence is just too massive to ignore.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:32 PM
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Wow. So you're calling these people anti-Semitic? It doesn't get more Jewish than that! It's crazy what logical fallacies people will fall for to avoid an unpleasant truth.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by pc is here

How do we fix this mess?


Sadly... The only resolution to this is to start from scratch...

If you have even a slight interest in saving your country... RUN FOR OFFICE... if we put NORMAL people into our leadership roles, and remove the career politicians we will set the foundation for a MUCH better America.

Imagine being able to say "I'm Free" and mean it...

I for one have been ready for 10 years to see the day when Americans took their country back through peaceful means. I feel like I'm stuck in a prison for a crime I didn't commit... I'm ready to run through those gates yelling "FREEEEEDDDDDOOOOOOMMMMMMM *best Mel Gibson Braveheart accent he's got*"

who's with me?



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by pc is here
I don't get it. What did those people in 9/11 die for? Aren't their loved ones, relatives angry?


They died for money and power, just not their own or that of their loved ones. Speaking of their loved ones, they are angry. So angry that they can't bear to accept the truth because it would force them to relive the pain all over again but even worse. Imagine you saw your mother murdered when you were a child, only to grow up and learn that your father had hired someone to kill her and make it look like a burglar or something.


It was all a lie? 9/11, weapons of mass destruction, Colin Powell's testimony to the UN, the 9/11 commission findings, media coverage, the flag waving, etc., etc.


Yes. There were no WMD's and Bush knew it. That's why his administration pushed the 9/11 connection on the American public. Colin Powell's testimony to the UN was for domestic consumption. Powell relied on "secret" evidence if you remember, that could not be made public. Behind closed doors, the UN was shown no such evidence. That is why the UN did not create the resolution that is necessary to legally attack another country. Media is bought and manipulated and "flag waving" is the result.
The 9/11 Comission was a sham itself. It happened so long after the fact that it was clearly another propoganda tool for the Iraq invasion and had nothing substantive to do with 9/11.


What about our dead and wounded troops, the brave firefighters who have become sick, the many dead and sickened Iraqi civilians, the DU contamination?


What about them indeed. The horrors are even worse than we are told, or are allowed to hear.


How do we fix this mess?


I whish I knew. It looks like those of us "in the know" are too few too late. Now we must watch. "A Clockwork Orange" suddenly comes to mind.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:40 PM
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Interesting spin. What if some champion rises from the ashes of American credibility with grandiose plans and ideas, with the power for vast sweeping reform. A real breath of fresh air. Like Adolf Hitler was to Germany.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by coven

Originally posted by pc is here

How do we fix this mess?


Sadly... The only resolution to this is to start from scratch...

If you have even a slight interest in saving your country... RUN FOR OFFICE... if we put NORMAL people into our leadership roles, and remove the career politicians we will set the foundation for a MUCH better America.

Imagine being able to say "I'm Free" and mean it...

I for one have been ready for 10 years to see the day when Americans took their country back through peaceful means. I feel like I'm stuck in a prison for a crime I didn't commit... I'm ready to run through those gates yelling "FREEEEEDDDDDOOOOOOMMMMMMM *best Mel Gibson Braveheart accent he's got*"

who's with me?


I would like to but unfortunately in this country the election has already been bought and paid for by the elite. I am not saying that Ron Paul or Barack Obama are the right candidates but they are the best options we have right now. It will never happen though. They are unelectable. The elite made sure of that, but this topic is getting derailed. I want to know how we are going to get this story in the MSM. That's the only thing that matters right now!!!!!



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by Jim_Kraken
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Wow. So you're calling these people anti-Semitic? It doesn't get more Jewish than that! It's crazy what logical fallacies people will fall for to avoid an unpleasant truth.


firstly your an inciter of conflict... you need to stop attacking people for speaking the truth...

now you want the truth about those people?

Its sad... but some people really DO HATE themselves.


I'll repeat anti ZIONISM is anti-semitic.

Wiki zion...

this is what you get


Zion (Hebrew: צִיּוֹן, tziyyon; Tiberian vocalization: tsiyyôn; transliterated Zion or Sion) is a term that most often designates the Land of Israel and its capital, Jerusalem. The word is found in texts dating back almost three millennia. It originally referred to a specific mountain near Jerusalem (Mount Zion), on which stood a Jebusite fortress of the same name that was conquered by David and was named the City of David.


learn a little something yourself before you try to school others... Zion IS judaism... ZION IS Israel... ZION is SPECIFICALLY A term for Jerusalem...

so once again...

Its sad... But some people really hate themselves.

Now go incite your drama elsewhere... I'm about sick of responding to your belittling attitude.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:43 PM
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Good point. I've heard the same point made at America's southern border in reference to (illegal)immigration and why neither party is stepping up to make the needed changes there.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Cowgirlstraitup7
I would like to but unfortunately in this country the election has already been bought and paid for by the elite. I am not saying that Ron Paul or Barack Obama are the right candidates but they are the best options we have right now. It will never happen though. They are unelectable. The elite made sure of that, but this topic is getting derailed. I want to know how we are going to get this story in the MSM. That's the only thing that matters right now!!!!!


then you have already been defeated... you can run for council, mayor, school board... Change occurs everyday at the whims of these government branches...

you have to start a movement in one town before it can go nation or even state wide.

Keep up the faith... find your calling, and serve your term...

this is the true duty of all Americans. Change your society by means of running for office.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Cowgirlstraitup7
So what are we going to do about it, are we ever going to see MSM tell the story, what about Keith Olbermann, who, if anyone is going to share this story beyond the internet, no one, that's who. Why?


MSM is not capable of explaining something that complicated. Some of the blame is on MSM, some of the blame is on the public. Just like some of it is to blame for apathy, some ignorance and other ill intention.

It's not about sharing it beyond the internet. This is just another straw to collect on the camel's back, so to speak.

[edit on 4-12-2007 by scientist]



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:46 PM
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I wouldn't be so arrogant if I were you. You don't have a terrible whole lot of points to lose. I know, neither do I, but at least I'm not making the risible and trollish assertion that clumps of dirt are what make a people a people.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by Jim_Kraken
I wouldn't be so arrogant if I were you. You don't have a terrible whole lot of points to lose. I know, neither do I, but at least I'm not making the risible and trollish assertion that clumps of dirt are what make a people a people.


That's it. I've left this topic. I thought with the topic title, it would consist of mature discussion, but I can see it's more about one's pride and ego than anything else. Any person can tell you that points are irrelevant, and hell, you can have 70 MILLION points and still go into the negatives with the click of an admin's button.

I hope this topic steers back to mature discussion and resolves with a decent conclusion about the Vice President's validity.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:52 PM
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I think Israel may have been complicit in 9/11, but I certainly do not think they are the masterminds. The conspiracy was vast, and most likey invloved the manipulation of many agencies and races of people.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:52 PM
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You'll see from my post the official theorists fired the first shot here. Oh, and I think it's too late to avoid conflict. Let's get this out of our system.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:53 PM
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Why hasn't a mod been in here yet for Covens thread derailment. This is ridiculous! In case anyone has forgotten this thread is about the Ex Italian President stating the 9/11 was an inside job. Get with the program or get out!



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:56 PM
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Hey, Coven was just following CaptainObvious' lead, but unlike CO, he has yet to even try to return to civility. This ain't the first time I've seen Coven act this way, either.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:59 PM
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Sorry I didn't realize that, I had put Captain on ingnore about a week after my joining this site, so I haven't read a word he's said, point is still the same, I think we need a mod in here.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Jim_Kraken
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I wouldn't be so arrogant if I were you. You don't have a terrible whole lot of points to lose. I know, neither do I, but at least I'm not making the risible and trollish assertion that clumps of dirt are what make a people a people.


you seriously are about to go on ignore.... That said... I can be arrogant because I UNDERSTAND that a NATIONS HISTORY is its PEOPLES history...

also... If i had posted trolling for points... I would have a lot more... I make my points by posting logical posts... I have 5 threads I have started... NOT A ONE is over a page... Sorry you're so special that you've been a member for two weeks, and you come trying to INSULT people who have been here for nearly a year...

I'll say again... Drop the attitude... and we can be civil... it goes both ways buddy.


so once again... Israel is the Nation of the JEWISH people.... The Judaic history originates from that area. to have a problem with ZION or Israel is to have a problem with Judaism... PERIOD.



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