Be careful about where you work

reply to post by tac109


I hope (said sarcasticaly) that you covered up your rear tag. Usually they get front and back...because some states dont require front tags.

I dont see those cams as big brother. They are there to give out tickets to people running lights. Running lights is highly dangerous - thus the reason why they are ticketing people for doing it.

I got hit by someone running a red light...so Im all for them

[edit on 7-12-2007 by greeneyedleo]

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I almost got hit by someone running a red light, but I practice defensive driving instead of relying on Big Brother to take care of me.

That being said however, my condolonces to you and your vehicle. I hate road-morons. Americans don't take driving anywhere near as seriously enough as they should, but I still don't think surveillance is tha answer. I'd rather see everyone have to meet CDL requirements.

Yes I agree, I have never been in an accident myself, but I see a lot of people driving who should not be on the road, The only reason I...er ah I mean I heard of sombody doing that is because cops have said that they will not write tickets if you cross the dbl white line by a foot but the cameras do, unfortunately for us the cameras will not prevent certain accidents but will only watch them happen, and like I said the light was never ran just rolled into the intersection a little bit, When I was younger and more stupid I drove fast and took too many risks, but now you might say I drive too slow. Also in my idea the cameras are just a form of big brother,

Originally posted by jedimiller
Makes no sense. I work for a company here and all their employees have a company ID tag. we have like 10,000 employees and none of them have to show drivers licenses when they come in to work.


You could refuse to show a drivers license.

some places have what you call security. many of these places require a government issues photo ID to verify your identity, it's not so uncommon. Refusing to show such proof would, as another person said, cause starvation. Did you not have to provide a photo ID to get your employee ID originally?

Don't you think the information in your employee file can be used to do a background check as well?

[edit on 7-12-2007 by scientist]

reply to post by tac109



I loved your story. Your, um, friend is a downright Anarchist! I am now inspired to create havoc against the robotic hordes.

Sorry. Posted to wrong thread.

[edit on 12/7/0707 by jackinthebox]

reply to post by tac109


Now your friend is going to have an arrest record. Next time he touches a yellow line in view of a policeman, he's going to be stopped again. Maybe he will be arrested again.

Worst case -- his employer fires him. He applies for other jobs, disclosing his arrest record (as you are suppose to do) but now the poor guy can't find work. So his wife leaves him, and he loses custody of his kids. Then comes the threat of welfare, suicidal thoughts, the rest of the deadly baggage...

Pretty severe consequences for walking your dog on the beach!

The big picture is that we have non governmental (private enterprise) people doing governmental work at all. There was no nexus between working at the studio and having a warrant out for poop on the beach. It reflects a society that has crossed over from being: of, by, and for the people, or individual liberties, to one of state socialism (nazi), where corporations’ rights are protected but not individuals.

It certainly is permissible, and I would endorse, tracking down those who do not have the courtesy to protect the environment or property of others by cleaning up after their pet on public access beaches. But, that said, there was no reason why access to a work site should trigger an arrest. That is crossing the line of public/private separation. We have also seen that the government has begun a program where churches are checking their congregational lists for the same things as part of national security. The big picture is that we should all be very concerned.

The time will come, very soon I suspect, that all of this police-state apparatus will be used openly against the population and without the pretext of justice or security. "They" have most of the pieces in position now. We're one "terrorist" attack away from living in a country far worse than Nazi Germany.

Originally posted by tac109
The guy had a warrant that originated from him walking his dog on a beach....Yes its true, this guy isnt a hardend criminal, he got a ticket for walking his dog on venice beach, I guess he didnt pay the ticket, one thing lead to another, then they put out a warrant on him. The reason I posted this thread is to show where we are headed. A Police State, And Yes you have to show your license to the guards to go on the property, even a famous actor would have to do the same, One of the sony employees told us about the "checks" kind of on the hush level after our guy got arrested. I just found it amazing that after showing them my license that they can get all that Intel on everybody that enters the studio.

Welcome to the police state of california where there is a rule for everything one could possibly do here. california is supposedly the 7th largest economy on the planet and the 1st largest racket in the u.s. and they intend to stay that way even at the cost of our personal freedom's.
if you think that's bad well i have a doosey of a story for you about the los angeles D.A. , the police report that clearly stated my innocence and the $5000.00 i had to spend ANYWAY to prove it on top of that.
being born and raised in the L.A. area i've watched it turn from a decent place to live into a police state that want's you in their system at all cost's. and if you do something like take your case all the way and win ,, well that's just the begining of their focus on your life.
when i think of the people who are suppost to serve and protect us here in california i think of people that i wouldn't even piss on if they were on fire. cop's today are a joke and the brunt of everyone's hatred after the first time you experience their self centered stupidity.....
even the mother inlaw at almost 80yrs old get's furious when they come-A-fishin in the neighborhood. that in a nut shell should tell you what pepole in the L.A. area think of the L.A.S.D. and the L.A.P.D..............
sorry about the ramblings and the hatred , but ,,,,my lord that felt good...

[edit on 17-2-2008 by ironman433]