It was a good read and seemingly factual until we get to this:

If he did undergo this "ordeal" in 1924, then we must presume that his key associates of that time -- including Nellie and Pauline -- functioned as his assistants.

There is no reason nor evidence to suggest that *everyone* around Crowley was involved in having sex with him. I grant you that it would take a er, "special" type of person to befriend him, but that doesn't mean EVERYONE was having sex with him - I know some were, but there is no reason to believe the "assistants" had to be Pauline.

Well from what I have read, at that time of his life, his life all but revolved around sexual magic. Most people who associated with him, man or woman, were sexually involved.

Barbara Bush born June 8 1925 . Therefore conceived around ..September of 1924 ? . Pauline Pierce, her mother returned to the USA from her time in France with Crowley in Oct 1924 . So, unless Barbara Bush was born prematurely, she was conceived during her mothers months with Crowley in France. .

One other interesting point. The 'Pierces ' Used to be known as the 'Percys' . Barbara Pierce ( Bush) being descended from the New England Family that had fled to America from England because of their involvement in the Gunpowder plot , aka Thomas Percy . And once in America, changed their name to Pierce to escape the wrath of the protestant English. So, here we have that fox news smear campaign against Ron Paul for being linked with Guy Fawkes and calling him a 'terrorist' , and the reality being G W Bush is actually a descendant of one of the conspirators , no.. terrorists!(as fox news would call them). Either that or descended of the great beast.

The irony ...




[edit on 3-12-2007 by Gun Totin Gerbil]

Originally posted by Karlhungis
Well from what I have read, at that time of his life, his life all but revolved around sexual magic. Most people who associated with him, man or woman, were sexually involved.

Not at all. For example, see the Crowley biography by Dr. Israel Regardie titled "The Eye In The Triangle". During that period, Regardie was Crowley's personal secretary and student in Magick, and was around him most of the time; and Regardie said he never witnessed anything overtly sexual.

Of course, Crowley *did* teach and practice several different forms of tantric sex, but certainly not with everyone he met, and not even with most of his magical associates.

Interesting. I wouldn't have made the connection between Crowley and Barbara Bush if that is the case. This is the first I've heard of that connection.

To me she looks identical to Mr Crowley. Her eyes, her nose, her eye brows. Is there a photo anywhere of the other man who could have been her father? If I were a betting man I would bet money she is Crowleys daughter.

The whole theory seems to be based on the presumption that because Pauline was a the friend of a women who was a lover of a friend of Crowley, and they were all in the same general area, Pauline *must* have had sex with him.

The logic/evidence seems to be extremely iffy.

Regardless of the pressumption of time frames. Have you ever seen pictures of Crowley in his old age and Barbra Bush/ Pierce/ Percy next to each other. That's a fater and daughter. They look almost the same person facialy.

According to some stories I've heard Bush's grand father or great grandfather was a Nazi soldier but it wasn't Crowley.

Could that be what you mean?

Cory

Originally posted by corsig
According to some stories I've heard Bush's grand father or great grandfather was a Nazi soldier but it wasn't Crowley.

Could that be what you mean?

Cory

no that's not what they mean, but you are right George's grandpa had something to do w/ the Nazi's. Prescot Bush was said to have worked for Rockafellas oil company ( i think it was U.S. standard oil ) selling a fuel product to them for their Nazi jets and war planes. The oil company was the only fuel producers in the world at the time that sold an added component in the fuel to help it from freezing. He may have also possibly donated funds to the Nazi Party. ( the donation part could be total farce though ) Texx Marrs I believe wrote a book called " Dark Majesty " check it out!

Decided to bump this do to the threads about Aleister Crowley being posted