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Topic started on 3-12-2007 @ 03:46 PM by mojo4sale
Its usually after talking to some of my relatives that i feel like throwing up not before.

An archaeologist has unearthed this "death vase" in the grave of a noble in Honduras' Palmarejo Valley.

news.nationalgeographic.com/news

An extremely rare and intricately carved "death vase" has been discovered in the 1,400-year-old grave of a member of the Maya elite, scientists say.
The vase is the first of its kind to be found in modern times, and its contents are opening a window onto ancient rituals of ancestor worship that included food offerings, chocolate enemas, and hallucinations induced by vomiting, experts say


i think i spoke to an ancestor last week after a night at the pub.

news.nationalgeographic.com/news, page 2

"It could be that these kinds of marble vases ended up all over the place, and we just don't know because we haven't excavated them. But I suspect that there's something else going on here," he said.
"There's some special relationship that somebody had in this community with the producers of these vases over in the Ulúa Valley.
"This is something you would find in a Maya king's tomb," he added. "This is not something you would find in a very rural, backwater community."


Good find by the archaeologist, i hadnt realised the Maya practised purging ceremonies. Also seems to be a little bit of mystery surrounding the region the vase was found in too.
I wonder what other cultures may have practised purging ceremonies to induce hallucinations?

mojo


reply posted on 4-12-2007 @ 07:16 AM by Karlhungis
reply to post by Drzava



I think the "With Strong Plants" changes the equasion. I have vomited so hard I have burst blood vessels in my eyes and face, with no hallucinations. I firmly believe had I thrown up any harder, I would have either given myself a hernia or a stroke. I just don't understand how it is possible without the aid of a hallucinogen.


reply posted on 4-12-2007 @ 07:23 AM by Drzava
reply to post by Karlhungis



yeah, its really the plants that can make u hallucinate.
but without the plants, is hwne a person enters a state of shock when vomiting, u kind of pass out, and start to hallucinate.
it may also depend on the person, if u are a strong minded person
it may not happend to u


reply posted on 5-12-2007 @ 10:17 AM by mojo4sale
Found a few more interesting tidbits regarding purging.

Yaupon Holly used by American Indians, check out the scientific name. doesnt leave much doubt about its properties.

Yaupon Holly
Yaupon (Ilex vomitoria) was a sacred shrub to American Indians throughout the Gulf Coast region, where it grows. The leaves contain caffeine and, when used in small amounts, can be made into a mildly stimulating drink. The local American Indians, however, used it in great amounts to induce vomiting during their rituals. Europeans, observing these purging ceremonies, gave the plant its species name.


This guy thinks he found a Maya spoon used by Taino Indians in Cuba and believs this could prove some cultural contamination between the two, though this is disputed by other archaeologists.

But now he thinks it was used by Taino Indians in Cuba, a pre-Columbian people known for ritual regurgitation.
The Taino stuck the spatulas down their throats so they could purge the contents of their stomachs before sacred ceremonies, where they communicated with the supernatural world or prayed for good health. After they had thrown up, they would inhale cohoba, a psychoactive drug made from the seeds of a tree, to induce a trance.


Also remember reading somewhere that purging was used in an attempt by some as a cure for the Bubonic plague in the 1370's, i think that dates about right.

mojo


reply posted on 5-12-2007 @ 12:44 PM by mojo4sale
reply to post by cocofat




In a similar vein i have read of anecdotal evidence of severe coughing fits having the same effect. Perhaps the bodies way of relieving the stress or pain of either vomiting or coughing fits.
I wonder about laughing fits, laughing does release various naturally occuring chemicals. Anyone know a good joke.
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