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Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
reply to post by gigaplex
You didn't disprove a thing. You threw out a splurge of random numbers at me, and "debunked" evolution with probability. That's the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. I'm through with you here. I believe we've made it obvious in our little argument just why Scientology shouldn't be allowed anywhere, not even Germany.
Originally posted by anxietydisorder
Originally posted by FredT
Yes I said feeble.
I'm sorry to hear that you think of me as feeble minded FredT. I think you've read enough of my posts here at ATS that you would have a different opinion of me.
I have met and worked with John Travolta and know he is not feeble minded in any way, and I've seen many successful people apply the precepts of Scientology in their lives to better themselves.
If Germany bans Scientology it's only to their detriment, typical action on their part though.
Too many people espouse their views on this religion without the least bit of understanding what it's all about.
Silly humans, if you had any sense you would ban Christianity and Islamic faiths. Scientology causes no wars.
Originally posted by gigaplex
reply to post by DeadFlagBlues
If someone has memories of past lives, if someone remembers past civilizations, not that someone told them but memories they've discovered on their own and then they hear that some guy named Xenu set off a bomb, it's not really going to sound quite as far fetched. So the core thing that leads to your absurdity claim is that you don't believe in past lives. But really, how are past lives any crazier than your mud to man theory which has less than a one in 100 duodecillion chance of being the case?
Space may or may not be infinite, I don't know. I do know that scientists claim there is a finite number of particles in the universe, not an infinite number of particles in the universe. So my calculation still stands. Or maybe you only believe the science that supports your religion?
Let me try and simplify this. If there was a universe that consisted of 100,000 particles in a random configuration and you needed a specific configuration of 100 particles to make something and only enough time had passed to rearrange the particles 10 times, you will more than likely not end up with what you are looking for. If under these conditions, you viewed this universe in its final state, found the configuration you were looking for but did not see anything that happened before this, you could conclude that it is highly improbable that this happened by chance. Believing that it did happen by chance would be a leap of faith.
You might say that because we are here, because these bodies exist, that proves the mud to man theory even though it is a statistical improbability. This is basically identical to someone saying that God is proved to be real because the bible is the word of God. It is called circular logic and it has no place in science. Your mud to man theory is a belief system just like christianity or any other belief system. I don't really have a problem with it but it should be noted that it is a belief system.
Originally posted by Togetic
I think you have to prove, first, that scientology is a religion, before it is entitled to religious protection. And I think freedom of choice whether to be a part of the religion or not is a central element.
Originally posted by skyshow
Realy this is nonsence! Isn't it time we though out our dead gods from thousand of years ago, and old worthless dogma, and instead get to know our neighbors and enjoy our cultural differnces and share our varieties of foods? If we are ever to advance and move out into the stars and join our brothers and sisters, we simply must dump religion. How many poor sould have died in the name of "god/God"? If you could bottle up all of the blood, I'm sure it would stock the shelves of all grocery stores world wide for years....please....please...PLEASE!!!! for the sake of humanity and world peace; dump religion, get rid of your gods, and awaken your selves. The world and all her inhabitants, as well as those in the universe are counting on you, and we need you to finally bring peace. We will only have peace when you people let go of your gods and your mind altering religions.