Deep,

no offense buddy but it's Africa man, nobody gives a frickin' stink log about it.

shame bloody shame it is.

Well people should give a # about it, If the american people were so intent on saving Saddams people from his evil reign, why not these poor people?


Deep

Originally posted by ZeroDeep
Well people should give a # about it, If the american people were so intent on saving Saddams people from his evil reign, why not these poor people?

No oil or fame.

*runs for cover*

Yeah but you forget the large influence that Europe has in Africa. What are they doin' about it?

Thats exactly the reason Jonna, the world is in such turmoil. We need more learned and humanitarian based leaders.

Deep

But seriously, what really got me is that we are 'liberating' the people of Iraq from an evil dictator to 'make the world a better and safer place'...or so we are told. If you want to me the good guy humanitarian do something about the cr@p going on in the Congo. Groups abducting and brainwashing young males to be solders, raping children and eating their human kills. I don't think that you can get any more 'evil' then that.

while we are on the topic of helping Uganda, can we also help SUDAN?? Those poor people have to live with the some of the worst diseases known to man. There are 3 surgeons only for an 800 mile area.

I would help them first, especially to get rid of some those diseases that plague the country.

While malaria, diarrhea, malnutrition and respiratory infections are biggest killers in southern Sudan - as in most of Africa - the area also has unusual concentration of diseases that are rare or nonexistent elsewhere:


RIVER BLINDNESS: Caused by parasite that invades body, producing severe itching, skin lesions, swelling and often blindness and genital elephantiasis. World's second leading infectious cause of blindness; afflicts about 18 million people, mostly in Africa.


NODDING SYNDROME: Relatively new and baffling illness that attacks children, causing convulsions, stunted growth, mental retardation. So far only in southern Sudan. Cause unknown and can be fatal. About 300 cases recorded last two years.


GUINEA WORM DISEASE: Contracted by drinking water contaminated with fleas, which carry worm larvae. Worm emerges from body year later through painful blister in skin, causing long-term suffering and sometimes crippling aftereffects. No treatment, but infection can be avoided with mesh water filter. Afflicts about 75,000 people, most in southern Sudan.


SLEEPING SICKNESS: Fatal disease caused by protozoan, spread by tsetse flies. Symptoms include fever, joint pain, itching, confusion, uncontrollable sleeping, coma and death. Treatable if caught early, but most victims die before being diagnosed. In 1999, estimated 450,000 people stricken. In certain villages of Sudan, 20 percent-50 percent infected.


VISCERAL LEISHMANIASIS: Most severe form of leishmaniasis, disease known since ancient times. Almost always fatal if untreated. Caused by parasite spread by sand flies. Characterized by irregular bouts of fever, substantial weight loss, swelling of spleen and liver, anemia. Of 500,000 new cases each year, 90 percent in Sudan, Bangladesh, Brazil and India.


BURULI ULCER: Bacterial infection from family of bacteria that causes tuberculosis and leprosy. True prevalence unknown and mode of transmission unclear. Starts as painless swelling in skin and causes severely deforming ulcers, mostly on limbs. Complications include loss of organs such as eye and breast; amputation of limbs and other permanent disabilities. Antibiotics don't seem to work, so ulcers cut out.

Im thinking no help. They have no oil!! Dammit use your heads people!

Sudan has lots of Natural resources: petroleum; small reserves of iron ore, copper, chromium ore, zinc, tungsten, mica, silver, gold, hydropower

I am sure there is something on that list that the USA/Canada/England and others can benefit from.

I agree. Lets box up the band aides, neosporin, and asprin and head over with a boatload of wheat and flour. We can split the loot!!!

Originally posted by THENEO
Deep,

no offense buddy but it's Africa man, nobody gives a frickin' stink log about it.

shame bloody shame it is.

yes it is. but remember when the last time we tired to help an africian country? October 1993? ring any bells anyone? the US has bigger things to worry about. let europe, the people who cause this mess, deal with it.

Originally posted by THENEO
Yeah but you forget the large influence that Europe has in Africa. What are they doin' about it?

Germany is the country doing most donations(by government and the people themself) to African countries while the USA...uhm bomb countries in the middle east

but you are right. it's africa, let them alone and see what's left when they are done. Really, my honest opinion.





I am an ass-hole? Sure, go in and fight against 12-year old kid soldiers which will blow away your head and make funny stuff with your guts and send back the heart to your infantry division.

let europe, the people who cause this mess, deal with it.

Sorry, it's a mixture of religion war and civil war between different tribes. It's not like that violence just popped up since 100 years.

European countries had colonies there and did ugly massacres there - true. 100% but they brought at least a bit modernity to some countries. The countries being in trouble so badly weren't fully colonized countries. So at least get some thoughts before posting.

[Edited on 5-2-2004 by shoo]

Africa itself is in need of help, but that would take more than just the U.S. to fix.

It would take a huge international force to go in and fix the problems, tying up trillions of dollars and quite a few soldiers.

Where is all this going to come from? No one is really banging down our door to help us right about now.

That is a much more complicated situation that just, let's help them

I agree, something needs to be done, but we can only help the world one step at a time.

Not to mention that the minute we did try to do something, the libs would say we wanted to invade (otherwise known as conquer) because it would all be for the diamonds.

There are too many Bush haters that the minute he tried to do anything, he'd be smashed for something.

I dont think Deep or myself are necessarily saying we need to send Soldiers to Africa... but some of the billions of dollars that we spend on weapons and war, could go towards helping eradicate some of those diseases and feeding a few hungry people.

ummm...deep correct me if I got you wrong.

Originally posted by shoo

Originally posted by THENEO
Yeah but you forget the large influence that Europe has in Africa. What are they doin' about it?

Germany is the country doing most donations(by government and the people themself) to African countries while the USA...uhm bomb countries in the middle east

but you are right. it's africa, let them alone and see what's left when they are done. Really, my honest opinion.





I am an ass-hole? Sure, go in and fight against 12-year old kid soldiers which will blow away your head and make funny stuff with your guts and send back the heart to your infantry division.

let europe, the people who cause this mess, deal with it.

Sorry, it's a mixture of religion war and civil war between different tribes. It's not like that violence just popped up since 100 years.

European countries had colonies there and did ugly massacres there - true. 100% but they brought at least a bit modernity to some countries. The countries being in trouble so badly weren't fully colonized countries. So at least get some thoughts before posting.

[Edited on 5-2-2004 by shoo]

it was europe who caused all the problems that are now in africa. they came in and moved tibes when they tried to colonize the place. those tibes were hostile to each other. LET EUROPE HANDLE IT! why shold the US clean up after other countries!

Your right. Money is wasted on usless luxaries.

I am an ass-hole? Sure, go in and fight against 12-year old kid soldiers which will blow away your head and make funny stuff with your guts and send back the heart to your infantry division.

Does this not disturb you? I work with a man from Uganda who was a soldier, the country is need of DIRE HELP, in his own words. He has a wife, and 2 children, all still back home.

Deep

why shold the US clean up after other countries!

And why should they not? If the Us wants to be the worlds police force, lets give them a good agenda.

Deep


My apologies Deep, meant to address what you said here and hit the wrong mod button....my sincere apologies.---Seekerof

[Edited on 6-2-2004 by Seekerof]