Nostradamus predicts next US president, page 2
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reply posted on 4-12-2007 @ 05:28 AM by coven
reply to post by DigitalGrl




yeah.... me either...

thats why I just made a nice little joke about it... Sometimes its just easier to laugh at what you don't understand; as opposed to accepting ones own ignorance.

that said (and no offense meant... I include myself in the ignorant on the actual topic of MD5 hash values.)

seriously if anyone knows what their talking about can you please give a laymens overview of exactly what the hell this is all about?


reply posted on 4-12-2007 @ 08:41 AM by logicize
reply to post by Shroomery



No, I caught that too. Basically, they created a number of different predictions that all produce the same MD5 hash. No matter which of the documents (candidate prdictions) they release, they produce the same MD5 hash. The trick here is that they found a way to sort of reverse engineer the hash, so they could produce different documents with the same hash.


reply posted on 4-12-2007 @ 03:34 PM by hawk123
reply to post by Obliv_au



You are right. Nostradamus is DEAD. Interesting to see this finding in the code. Be aware that Nostradamus his predictions are still alive.


reply posted on 5-12-2007 @ 04:48 PM by makeitso
reply to post by DigitalGrl



I hope this doesn't confuse you more, but here is how I understand this.

Its just a version of an old magic trick.
Produce an envelope with a dated postmark on it to prove you "knew in advance" which card the volunter would choose. In this case the "card" is a president instead of a spade, and the hash is equal to the postmark, proving the date it was "mailed".

The audience isn't told that the magician has all 12 cards in envelopes marked with the same date, so that he can present whichever card/president was choosen.

In this case, the audience is told the magician has all 12 cards because the article isnt really about who the next president will be, or Nostradamus, or magic tricks. Its about raising awareness (by naming the technique Nostradamus to get your attention) that there is an exploitable flaw in one of the systems used for computer program and document security/verification using a random number generator. Its about showing how they came to their conclusion by publishing reproducable test results, so that the problem will eventually be addressed/fixed.

And it worked.
The flaw in the random number generator has been all over the web lately. I think there were even some ATS posts about the rumor that it was an intentional flaw designed or helped along and used by the NSA.

I have a sneaky suspicion that its something more mundane. Like maybe some company came up with a newer version of the number generator, so they made waves in the media about the flaw to sell their system as the new global "default" number generator? Just guessing though.


[edit on 12/5/07 by makeitso]



reply posted on 6-12-2007 @ 10:32 AM by DigitalGrl
reply to post by Teknikal



AHA! i got it now. wow, that took some work didnt it? i promise you i am not usually this dense lol.

Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me



Kind Regards,
Digitalgrl


reply posted on 6-2-2008 @ 09:48 PM by keops
reply to post by hawk123



how many times, he predicted something, it didn't happen?


reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 02:17 PM by hawk123
Originally posted by hawk123
As you see the Nostradamus prediction method is re-invented again by the university below. It will be Obama.
www.win.tue.nl...


Nostradamus predicted Osama.

Century 1
76
The man will be called by a barbaric name
that three sisters will receive from destiny.
He will speak then to a great people in words and deeds,
more than any other man will have fame and renown.


90
A hundred times will the inhuman tyrant die,
In his place put one learned and mild,
The entire Senate will be under his hand,
He will be vexed by a rash scoundrel.

Barbaric Name = Middle name of Hussein
Inhuman Tyrant = Bush or Hillary, you be the judge
Rash Scoundrel = Bubba

The secret codename is: 3D515DEAD7AA16560ABA3E9DF05CBC80


[edit on 5-11-2008 by hawk123]
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